Karen Does Ben’s Wildflower, By Carol Lynne…


Interesting cover…

Please note, the following review contains spoilers and excerpts.

This review was painful to write, but it had to be done. Carol Lynne, if you happen to come across this review, whilst googling yourself, I’d recommend that you don’t read any further. It’s not a gushing lovey-dovey review, in fact, it may be a tad… harsh? I’m sorry.

Anyway, without further ado, here’s the blurb from Elloras Cave.


My Verdict

Jesus. Effing. Christ.

I can honestly say, it’s been a while since I read a book so bad, I had to review it.

I’m almost sorry to do this to Ms Lynne, but I can’t imagine who thought it was a good idea to put this book out for public consumption. Seriously, I don’t even know where to begin.

I should have known things were gonna be bad when the hero insisted on calling the heroine ‘Wildflower’. Could the author be more corny?

The sheer amateurish nature of this book, lead me to conclude that the author was fairly new to publishing, and looking at her website, it seems that I may be right, unless of course she publishes under another guise Please say it aint so!.

For the love of all things Oprah, please let her be a newbie author, because if she aint, then she’s got no fucking excuse for the pile of steaming horse manure that I’ve just subjected myself to.

The characterisation was poor beyond belief, I couldn’t get over the ridiculously stilted dialogue, the slightly bizarre storyline, and the whole host of secondary characters, who all seemed to be either gay, or at least thinking about it.

Ben and Kate (the hero and heroine) have some friends who are involved in a menage relationship. The woman in the menage is pregnant, and the two men are denying her sex because apparently pregnant women can’t indulge in carnal activities.

Now bear in mind that this is a contemp set in a town called Junctionville, but there’s a strange old scene where Ben is lamenting over the issues that Kate has been having, to his friends, when suddenly, the two men, who form part of the menage start tonguing each other in public, and feeling each other’s cocks. Huh?

Not only that, but at one point Ben, who’s obviously a manly heterosexual man, is on the phone to one of his buddies, and he turns round to find that the two men, unable to keep their passions below boiling, start going at each other whilst he’s sat there. And when I say going at each other, what I mean is, one guy sticks his tongue in the other guys arse, and starts licking him out.

What. The. Fuck?

Now I’m not saying that shit like this doesn’t happen, but considering that one of the men was the local sheriff, and the other one had an equally ‘masculine’, public minded job, I just don’t think they would behave like that in a straight bar, in a town called Junctionville, know what I mean?

I’m sorry, I’m usually willing to suspend disbelief when reading erotic romance, but this was just something I couldn’t see happening. This is the equivalent of TTG and I having dinner with friends, then me pulling down my knickers, and letting him feast on my womanly bud. I think not.

I know that these kind of scenes happen a lot in erotic romance, but this was a contemp set in a town called Junctionville for fuck’s sake, if that doesn’t scream redneckville, I don’t know what does.

What I couldn’t understand was that there was this raving lunatic, who was obviously going round causing Katie-Did trouble, and kept trying to kill her at every opportunity, whilst leaving big-assed clues that he was the guilty party, yet for some reason, nothing was ever done about it.

Erm… hold on, on second thoughts, that doesn’t sound so far-fetched. That shit happens in England all the time.

Oh by the way, did I mention that Ben (our hero) had a problem with his overgrown dick? No? Well he did. What clued me in on his little problem, I hear you ask?

Oooh, let me count the ways:


Clue number one: He has a ten inch dick.


Clue number two: He has to stick it to his heroine, itty bitty inches at a time, so that he doesn’t rip her in half.


Clue number thr… fuck that, more to the point, I want to know who the fuck says something as stupid as ‘I can handle your cock’s circumference’? Blech.


Clue number four: Even Ben’s friends have noticed the size of his pecker.


Good fucking lord. *Head-desk*

I get it, Ben has a big dick, and it’s been the bane of his life, now please move on with the fucking story.

*Ahem*, I digress…

Not only were the primary characters totally lacking any kind of depth, the villain, was just sooo over the top evil, I almost found myself sympathising with him. He was a crap baddie, and it didn’t help that he didn’t seem to be the brightest tool in the box either.

Anytime he did something evil to Kate, he left great big fucking clues that anybody with half a brain cell would have been able to figure out. He might as well have taken out an ad in the local rag, telling everybody that he did it. Sigh.

I just remembered that there was a sub-plot involving a couple of Ben’s friends, that seemed to have just been dumped in the middle of the book. There was simply no rhyme or reason for it, so my best guess was that the author was doing her utmost to meet her minimum word count. Oh the pain.

Another thing that bemused me was Ms Lynne’s apparent love for the phrase, ‘Little Fucker’. I wonder if she realised just how often she used said phrase, when referring to the villain of the book? I was tempted to count, but I couldn’t be arsed. Anybody who buys Ben’s Wildflower will quickly see what I mean.

I briefly mentioned the stilted dialogue before, but it was gems like the following that had me nearly peeing my panties. I’m not sure that was the intended reaction though:

“Speaking of fucking. I’ve been giving it some thought and if you’re still interested I think I’d like you to fuck me in the ass.”

I loved how the author wrote the above in such a way that Kate could have been easily asking for more sugar in her coffee. Did I mention that the heroine was nervous about sex when she met the hero? And that for some reason she had bras with the nipples cut out, even though she was scared of S.E.X?

This book was so badly written, that it made Thea Devine’s Sensation seem positively wonderful. My regular readers will know that this is not a good thing. Seriously.

There were so many things wrong with Ben’s Wildflower that the problem would be knowing when to stop listing my issues with the book. It was craptastic in way that I haven’t experienced in a long while.

I have to say, it isn’t often that I come across a book so bad, that I have to question what the editor was smoking when she agreed to publish it. I’m sorry Ms Lynne, I pray that you aren’t somebody I actually like. but this book was so technically inept that it leads me to indeed wonder what the fuck your editor was shooting up, when she offered you a contract for it.

It really was that crap.

You can visit Carol Lynne’s very interesting website here, and buy Ben’s Wildflower in e-book format, here.

Ok, that’s enough from me, I’m just going to gargle with mouthwash to take the nasty taste of this book out of my mouth. I feel so dirty, I think that a bath is also in order.

72 Comments »

72 piped up to “Karen Does Ben’s Wildflower, By Carol Lynne…”

  1. AvatarAnonymous
    1

    OMG Finally a woman after my own heart. Karen you have torn this book down and I have to agree with you. A 12 year old could have writen a better story-wait my son who’s 7 could have written a more interesting story. It’s almost like they let Carol out of a loony bin and told her to write what was in her head. Yes, yes, that’s cruel, but good god-the sexual scenes were nothing but a waste of paper-dear heavens no a waste of freaking time.

  2. AvatarJane
    2

    I heard from someone that she sold 12 books to EC. Seriously. If this is what EC is thinking is good, well. . . . Long live Samhain, huh?

  3. Avataravidbookreader
    3

    Still scratching my head over that cover…sorry.

    Keishon

  4. AvatarBev (BB)
    4

    Well, okay, hmmm, this might explain why I’ve been buying way too many books from Samhain and none from EC . . . although I did notice recently that a few Cobblestone Press titles have filtered through my Ebookwise purchases.

    Oye. Go rest your eyes, Karen.

  5. AvatarDevon
    5

    Crap on a cracker, at this point, I may have to read this myself, just to make sure it’s real. It sounds like a joke. One guy giving the other a rim job when their buddies on the phone? Totally hilarious!

    Why did the two menage guys bother with the chick? It doesn’t sound like they were too interested.

  6. Avatarshuzluva
    6

    Hilarious and abso-fucking-lutely horiffic at the same time. Between your and Jane’s reviews I was cracking up and drawing a ton of attention.

    Of course, when you wrote this:

    Oh by the way, did I mention that Ben (our hero) had a problem with his overgrown dick? No? Well he did. What clued me in on his little problem, I hear you ask?

    Oooh, let me count the ways:

    I thought you actually wrote Oooh, let me cunt the ways

    *dies*

  7. AvatarTeddy Pig
    7

    I just do not think the blond’s head on the cover matches the body.

    The guy in front of her looks like he is bowling nude.

    Oh and you do a very nice “harsh” review by the way.

  8. AvatarSamantha
    8

    It’s this kind of stuff that stopped me from buying books from EC a year ago.

  9. AvatarIndida
    9

    I read this book yesterday and seriously tried to see if there was a way to return it.

    The scene when the guy was on the phone made me get up and walk away for a few minutes. I couldn’t believe that I had really just read that. I went back for a second look and, yup, still there.

    The rest of the book is full of other unbelievable or ridiculous scenes, as Karen pointed out.

    If you go take a look at her upcoming books (use the “freewebs.com” link), you will see that she has a thing for a bad guy who rapes the main characters, there are at least 4 of them. Ben’s Wildflower is a sequel to Branded by Gold and it’s the same set up.

    I will admit that I read Branded by Gold and thought it was a fluke for a first time author. Wildflower was the second chance. It bombed.

    What has happened to EC? The fact that I have bought at least 4 books in the two months that sucked major ass is too much of a coincidence for me. Hell, maybe it’s just like my typical luck.

  10. AvatarShiloh Walker
    10

    this is sort of unrelated… I haven’t read the book and I don’t really discuss reviews period.

    But I had to say this…

    *G*

    then me pulling down my knickers

    I love the way the English use …well… English. I sit by Rosemary Laurey at signings as often as I can just cuz sooner or later she’ll tell the story of meeting her DH. He spoke and my knickers just about fell off…

    not sure what it is about the term knickers I like so much. But it made me grin.

  11. AvatarRowena
    11

    LMAO LMAO LMAO!

    That review was the bomb, it makes me want to read the book just to see how horrible it was!

  12. AvatarDionne Galace
    12

    Goddamn it… both you and Jane tagged me to review it.

    Fuck you guys. I hate you both sometimes. And yet I love you. No, I hate you.

    This sucks on so many levels.

  13. AvatarTeddy Pig
    13

    It’s not just you Indida.

    EC has some excellent authors. The problem is none of them seem to have anything coming out and the ones showing up week to week are well… weaker and weaker.

    These same authors also seem to have more and more new EC books coming out than the good authors have in their entire back catalog. Which is not a good sign at all.

    It’s like I have noticed LI’s editing is getting bad too.

    Last book I bought there had more spelling flubs (even the hero’s name) and just horrid slow parts that should have been cut.

  14. AvatarTeddy Pig
    14

    Hey Karen!

    I dare you to read Love Me Wild by Renee Field from EC.

    Oh yeah, I bought it the same time as I bought Banded By Gold.

    Oh the pain!

  15. AvatarDionne Galace
    15

    Oh, wait… Jane didn’t ask me. Just you, karen. Just you.

    *glaring*

  16. AvatarJane
    16

    I double dog dare ya, Bam.

  17. AvatarDionne Galace
    17

    Oh, deuce! A pox on you both.

    You guys suck. And I was planning on having a contemplative weekend too.

  18. AvatarMERLIN
    18

    Hi Karen,

    What ? You mean there are no Manchester United football players in the book ? I’ll just have to comment on your review instead.

    Very, very funny – it’s sent me to bed with a smile on my face.

    I’ve always thought that this kind of book isn’t my type of thing but I’m tempted to buy it just so I can roll around on the floor laughing myself silly.

    So the guy’s got a big cock has he and it’s been the bane of his life so he can only fuck big women?

    Utter tosh ; never had that problem myself !

    I can see I’ll have to call in again and read a few more of your reviews – great fun !

    (PS Pray for Saturday please).

    Best Wishes,

    M.

  19. Avatareggs
    19

    Has anyone else noticed that the cover model is the spitting image of Larry Birkhead with Farrah Fawcett Majors hair? That’s just creepy!

    eggs.

  20. Avatarloonigrrl
    20

    Clue number four! Just hilarious!

  21. AvatarKaren Scott
    21

    I heard from someone that she sold 12 books to EC.

    Jane, 12 freaking books? Oh. My. God. But the writing was so bad, how on earth did her editor decide that she/he was somebody worth giving a one book deal to. never mind 12! I think I could have honestly done a better job.

    Still scratching my head over that cover…sorry.

    Keishon, in her review Jane wrote that she thought the woman looked like a bodybuilder, lol! I’m still trying to figure out what kind of sexual position that is.

    Well, okay, hmmm, this might explain why I’ve been buying way too many books from Samhain and none from EC . . .

    Bev, I think that because EC are offering up eight books per week that the quality is bound to suffer, and unless they get better editors, this kind of drivel will become the rule, rather than the exception.

    The funny thing is, I know of perfectly good unpubbed writers that they’ve refused to take on. Somebody needs to be checking that the standards are being adhered to, because quite frankly, this book was not a good advert for them.

    Why did the two menage guys bother with the chick? It doesn’t sound like they were too interested.

    That’s exactly what I thought Devon. Looking at the authors other stories, I defintely think he/she is really more into Gay romance, than straight, because the themes seem to repeat themselves.

    I thought you actually wrote Oooh, let me cunt the ways

    That’s nothing Shuz, I know an author who accidentally wrote word cunt instead of word count on a publishers group list. It still tickles me to this day, lol!

    Teddy, the woman on the cover definitely has a masculine body. Cover suckage all the way round.

    I must admit Samantha, I don’t buy from there as I used to do, what with the whole BDSM influx and all.

    If you go take a look at her upcoming books (use the “freewebs.com” link), you will see that she has a thing for a bad guy who rapes the main characters, there are at least 4 of them. Ben’s Wildflower is a sequel to Branded by Gold and it’s the same set up.

    Indida, I noticed her fascination with the women in her/his books being raped. When an author has that many re-occurring storylines, it does kinda make you wonder if it’s a personal fetish.

    Also, did you, like myself, wonder if the book had been written by a guy?

    “then me pulling down my knickers.”
    I love the way the English use …well… English

    Heheh, sometimes only knickers will do, it is a deliciously naughty word, that isn’t in the least graphic, and I love it!

    That review was the bomb, it makes me want to read the book just to see how horrible it was!

    Rowena, I’m sure there are plenty of people who will buy it just to see what the fuss is about, lol.

    Fuck you guys. I hate you both sometimes. And yet I love you. No, I hate you.

    Oh suck it up and review it for Oprah’s sake. I love you too Bam. *g*

    I dare you to read Love Me Wild by Renee Field from EC.

    Was it worse than this one? If so, I’m not doing it. One awful book per annum, is usually my limit.

    I double dog dare ya, Bam.

    There ya go Bam, you have to do it now, Jane said so, hehehe!

    So the guy’s got a big cock has he and it’s been the bane of his life so he can only fuck big women?

    Utter tosh ; never had that problem myself !

    I thought that your 12 incher was just a vicious rumour Merlin? *g*

    And believe me, I am praying with everything I have that we beat The Toffees today.

    Has anyone else noticed that the cover model is the spitting image of Larry Birkhead with Farrah Fawcett Majors hair?

    Soooo funny, yet sooo true!

    Loonigrrl, it was truly pathetic.

  22. AvatarMERLIN
    22

    Karen,

    No – it’s not a rumour but thanks for mentioning it : should get me a bit of attention eh ?

    In all seriousness in my experience it’s often the case that smaller women (and I like small women) are more accomodating in that department than big women are.

    M.

  23. AvatarAmie Stuart
    23

    The funny thing is, I know of perfectly good unpubbed writers that they’ve refused to take on.

    Karen…so do I and it leaves me scratching my head!

    Along the lines of what Shiloh said, I love the word arsesd *g*

  24. AvatarKat O+
    24

    I’ve been looking forward to your review after reading what DA had to say. You actually put a caveat at the top–you must be mellowing. ;-)

  25. AvatarTeddy Pig
    25

    He/She/It that wrote this garbage got a 12 book deal!?!?!

    Oh my god! No wonder EC is heading for Changeling Press territory!

    They bought 12 books of this crap?

    I think that is a sign for any good authors to run for it.

  26. AvatarMrs Giggles
    26

    Good lord, I actually have this book in my TBR pile.

    Don’t quote me on this since the person made me not to reveal her identity, but there is an ex-EC author who told me that she had to stop writing for them when her editor actually told her to cut down the story and add in more sex instead. I don’t know if this is true or vary from editor to editor at EC, but I have seen her sentiment echoed at least once by other people across blogsville. It does seem as if EC is turning into Avon – they have a formula that sell and they will make sure that everything that comes out from them follow that formula above everything else.

  27. AvatarKaren Scott
    27

    Good lord, I actually have this book in my TBR pile.

    Oh, I’m looking forward to that review then.

    but there is an ex-EC author who told me that she had to stop writing for them when her editor actually told her to cut down the story and add in more sex instead.

    I’m not in the least surprised Mrs G, a lot of current EC authors are quick to come to their defence if anybody implies that this is actually what happens, but I bet they would be singing a different tune if they were to leave them under less than amicable circumstances.

  28. AvatarKaren Scott
    28

    Kat, the caveat was in order to avoid any trolling should the author find the review. I don’t need the hassle, so if she reads after the warning, it’s her own look-out.

  29. AvatarChantal
    29

    I really liked the first one in this series a lot, so I was excited for Ben’s WIldflower to come out.
    I was pretty underwhelmed and annoyed when I was reading it. I didn’t hate it like you did, but it for sure isn’t going to be re read by me.

  30. AvatarDesiree Erotique
    30

    Goodness. Well. Interesting “plot”. All I can say, and actually it’s a question- and that is, I trust the author asked you to review her story, Karen?

    As to the cover, I like it. I do think the gal’s beauty would have been better showcased with a bit of a smile on her face.

  31. AvatarSarah McCarty
    31

    I have to say that I have never been asked to add more sex in a story at EC, nor have I ever been told to add it earlier. My preference is to have the hero and heroine with all their motivations firmly established in the readers mind before I move forward into the physical realtionship as I like that to evelove out of the emotional relationship. With the exception of my novella which featured and existing relationship, I don’t think I’ve had any sexual scenes before about 40 – 60K into the story, (I write big books) so if there was a mass edict for more sex earlier, or kinkier sex etc, I’d be a prime candidate for a nudge. My feet probably wouldn’t move as I enjoy writing romance and not erotica, but it’s never even been hinted at. (I have faced the endangered comma issue, though)

    Everything at EC, however, is handled at an editor level and every author’s experience is conditional upon their editor’s interpretation of what’s expected. I wouldn’t be surprised if different editors might interpret things differently.

  32. AvatarSarah McCarty
    32

    And oh I forgot to mention as a caveat, my publisher immortalized me a year or so ago in a blog post as the author with ovaries of steel as I’m known for voicing my concers to the powers-that-be if I have an issue with something, so if I were told to add more sex, I wouldn’t feel uncomfortable mentioning that.Just as I wouldn’t be uncomfortabel telling whomever asked me “No” if I felt it wouldn’t work. It’s not a “forbidden” topic. More like a difference in goals when it comes to a book and that’s not the end of the world. Many times there’s a shift in a house focus or an author’s focus that leads to them maturing out of their relationship with each other. Sometimes authors leave a house in a huff and a puff. Other times with a sad acceptance that they’ve just grown apart. It’s not always an evil event with dark secrets lurking.

  33. AvatarNicolette
    33

    I’m only about 60 pages in, but I’m going to give some tentative love to the writer. Sure, I haven’t reached the 2 guys going at it in public, but I’m still prepared to pass a little judgment.

    The main problem is the desperate need for an edit. She needed help cleaning up the prose, correcting punctuation, making dialogue sound more natural, and just helping with a habit for repetition and stating the obvious.

    She’s not a completely unfortunate writer, not at all, but she needs the sort of assistance that writers should be getting as part of a writing contract. She needed someone to tell her she’d tucked her skirt into the back of her pantyhose *before* she walked through the mall. (Not that that’s ever happened to me…more than once.)

    Any concerns or misgivings she had were probably quieted by people telling her this story was ready for publication.

    I rather like the characters, which is important. I like that he’s the size of a house, and concerned about her well-being. I wish he’d quit the nickname a little, as the title should say it all so that he doesn’t have to…Wildflowers, resilient, got it! :)

    And where is the love for the stretched out whores? Ben seems awfully disdainful of the women who’ve spread for him before. Without them he would have been lonelier than the Maytag repairman. I have no problem with Kate being a virgin, but if not for the trauma in her own past, she might have been a little less snug either. Would that have made her less “spe-shul?”

    (Oh, wait, was here to give the writer love!)

    I also have less of an issue with her piercings and undies than either Karen or Jane. Just because she’s a virgin doesn’t mean she doesn’t like to feel sexy, or wouldn’t be aroused at the idea of having little secret things to make her feel naughty. I like that this is not one of those books where the chick has no discernible pulse, let alone sex drive, before the hero shows up on the scene. Feeling sexy has a lot to do with your self-esteem when all alone.

    And that’s where I am with the story thus far.

  34. AvatarAnonymous
    34

    I haven’t read this book, but that’s because I haven’t bought anything from that publisher in quite a while. Caroly Lynne sounds like a wannabe-Lora Leigh, down to the ultra-alpha males and clunky prose that needed a good editor to polish it. At least Lora had an actual plot in her books, and it’s been amazing what a good NY editor has done for her technique. I’m sure EC is kicking themselves for losing Lora Leigh and will grab any pale substitute they think will make them a few bucks.

    EC has gone downhill. In an attempt to stay cutting edge, EC has fallen straight off the edge of erotic romance and solidly into PORN. Many authors have left for NY, but several others are just fed up with the new policies at EC. The “rumor” about being forced to add more sex over plot isn’t a rumor in my experience. Neither is it a rumor that EC encourages authors to write down to their readers by ommitting larger words, necessary punctuation, and any storyline that is too in-depth and takes away from the developing relationship (a.k.a. fucking). Who do they think is their demographic? Illiterate ninth grade girls? It’s truly ridiculous.

    I am fulfilling my last contract for them and making a break for it. Whether I flop or fly, at least it won’t be dependent on how quickly I can pump out sex scenes that aren’t slowed by the nuisance of a properly placed comma, or overburdened with that cumbersome thing called plot.

  35. AvatarZeek
    35

    oh that sounds horrendous. I must confess I was curious after seeing Dear Author’s review as to why you would suggest it to them seeing as they found it so crappy. Now I see the evil genious behind it all!

  36. Avatarlinda
    36

    Hi,
    I read the first one in this series and enjoyed it enough to purchase this one. The sex between the two men was quite, um,cringe worthy but I can say if the writing is tightened up, the main story is okay.
    With EC, I am finding it pretty hit and miss at the moment and I tend to stick to authors I know. Joey W Hill is one of my fave authors of any publishing house.
    But the cover…OMG, that woman looks like fabio with boobs.

  37. AvatarBev (BB)
    37

    But the cover…OMG, that woman looks like fabio with boobs.

    Okay, I so have to ask now – is this better or worse than Larry Birkhead with Farrah Fawcett hair?

    And regardless, ewww. You people will never know how much I appreciate having either of those images stuck in my head.

    I am so glad that while all this was going on I was off enjoying one of the best ebooks I’ve run across in months. Gives one hope. And no I’m not telling you the publisher until I post about it. Probably tomorrow. ;p

  38. AvatarCasee
    38

    Wow. This is like a trainwreck, I can tell. After your review, there is no way I *can’t* get this book. LOL

    I am loving your site. I just looked around and am looking forward to coming back!

  39. AvatarAnonymous
    39

    From Kathryn Falk, CEO
    RT Bookreviews Magazine

    Rosemary Potter (Rosemary’s Books, Brisbane, Australia)

    Margaret Bell (Intrigue Romance Book Store, Canberra, Australia)

    Dear Karen,

    I am still in Texas at our SOS Soldiers Retreat, recuperating from the very busy and successful 24th Annual Booklovers Convention. There was a lot of warm feelings of family and good friendships this past week.

    Many new “RT virgins” attended and I look forward to seeing more newly published authors and offshoot businesses spinning off of this event.

    Which brings me to my concern about your blog.

    I’m sitting here now with Rosemary Potter, a passionate seller of new American books, and an early promoter of Erotica and small presses. With her is Margaret Bell, another enthusiastic bookseller from Australia.

    I’m sorry they had to overhear my incoming calls and become aware of emails directed to me concerning such negative nasty comments on your blog from romance book people. It was an eye opener I wish they hadn’t experienced.

    I am very proud of Ellora’s Cave and the small presses run by women. I am proud of any woman who writes erotica and gets published. I know how tough it is. I am the only woman who owns a magazine (except for Oprah and Martha) and no woman has ever owned a publishing house in New York. Be it Harlequin, Berkley, Dorchester or Kensington, it’s owned by businessMEN.

    This has been the situation since I started up in 1981. That is why I have been so supportive of e-publishing women and will continue to be. None of us had money to invest, instead we invested ourselves and our hearts.

    Do I think we are all brilliant and perfect? Of course not. But we do our best and that’s what counts. We have to try harder in publishing. Whoever thinks that anger and mean criticism helps our genre is off base.

    None of our members deserve such ridiculous bloggers, especially from mean-spirited women posting notes from the quiet of their houses while those in the rat race of business life are working long hours. To think you only have time to promote personal vendettas is sad.

    If this was investigated, I suspect there’s more to this than meets the eye.

    E-publishers had little support in the beginning. I made certain my magazine promoted them to the best of our ability. Ellora’s Cave, in particular, has always been savvy and displayed great energy and enthusiasm from the very first time I encountered them. They deserve respect for l3eading the way, as does Red Sage and other erotica companies that paved the way. Attacking them is mindless. Positivity is the key to helping our genre.

    Many newcomers followed them and their companies are now run by women as well, I feel we should all feel protective towards all of them. Most businesses fail in 2-3 years, people who succeed beyond that have something special.

    I don’t want that flame of passion for books and e-publishing to ever be extinguished for our loyal readers. If one “hurts” — be it something nasty published towards a publisher, editor, or author. We should all hurt unless we are heatless.

    Learning that so-called romance enthusiasts on your blog are referred to as bleeding hearts or an idiot, is not acceptable.

    Unless your bloggers are genuinely perverse and have no regard for people’s feelings and livelihood, then I predict you all will needlessly add turmoil and discontent to yourselves. I hope you are ready to take responsibility for some of your remarks.

    Writing is a livelihood and those kinds of attacks are of no value. Nor does it give your blog credibility or vital interest in the long run. Disrespect for our industry and its members reflects the dark nature of the person spewing it — not the object of the attack.

    We’ve never communicated, and I would have telephoned if I’d had a direct number. But I would like to nip this in the bud if it’s possible. I’m told you are living in England and since I’ll be there July 15, in Barrow, perhaps you’d like to meet up at our summer prom? Anyone in the romance world would enjoy it and is invited. We have a lot to discuss, perhaps.

    I am certainly aware of the function of blogs, but Romance Books are not a Political forum. We are a fantasy business that reflects Everywoman. She doesn’t want sadness, discontent, fighting and negativity in her life, for that she watches the news or reads the newspapers. Our writers and editors are sometimes fragile, as the line of our work is pure emotion.

    I question if your blog today (Tuesday) is being used — I repeat – being used — to spread inaccuracies and ill will. It appears to be promoting everything romance books do not stand for. These personal attacks are embarrassing, hurtful, and do not reflect our hardworking community.

    You are in the position to tell troublemakers to move on or get out of the book biz, and if possible, learn who the Liars are….

    Please start by asking them to not muddy our waters with ugly suppositions and invalidated comments — and to be impeccable with their words — this would be an excellent practice of gratitude and most appreciated.

    Some of the postings are obviously from unhappy unpublished/published individuals who deem it appropriate to share their pent up angst and intensely personal attacks on your blog. I’ve never understood why some writers feel that other people’s success affects their lack of it.

    Putting down editors and writers also displays a lack of knowledge about this industry. Romance is the most successful genre of all time because people have banded together with a collective consciousness to do good not evil. This is true camaraderie. I hope it continues or we will perish.

    All publishers do their best. All authors do their best. My reviewers do their best. It’s a plus for our community that this is so.

    I know there are small minded people who have difficulty in loving what we do, even though it’s what they want to do, In the long run they are spreading negativity about themselves.

    Why not realize that authors are sensitive, and so are publishers — and inflicting harmful words does all of us a disservice. I was attacked for starting a romance magazine. I was attacked for discovering Fabio and predicting he would be a household word. I was attacked for just about every successful thing I’ve accomplished.

    But, it wasn’t the men who attacked me in this business (with the exception of one crooked literary agent!!) but the women.
    As Bertrice Small says to those women who tried to put her down: “Honey, I laugh all the way to the bank, they don’t even have an account.”

    It’s easy to spot jealousy, it’s usually against the successes of our business. Our industry has always created tremendous resentment for those with small minds. They have no idea of the complexities of business, or they wouldn’t go around complaining.

    Remember — EVERYTHING IS JUST A THOUGHT and EMOTIONS MAKE THINGS HAPPEN FOR YOU.

    There is constructive criticism and there is destructive criticism. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know the difference.

    Nothing goes in a straight line — every problem is actually a situation in publishing. And every situation is a learning experience and an opportunity to grow.

    My advice to authors who appear to be on a mean streak: The big picture is — where do you want to fit in and how do you see yourself in our industry in five years? How do you see the industry if you’re causing havoc and spreading a virus of negativity?
    Put your energy on what you want, and don’t waste the moment thinking so negatively of others. It hurts your peace of mind and is an obstacle to your success.

    I believe our books and publishers provide enough categories and reviews to please ALL the many types of readers. Everyone has and deserves diverse reading choices and preferences.

    Bloggers who have no idea of the work it takes to be an author and a publisher in today’s competitive market should not be welcome on board. And if you check into the sales of some of the people you’re “dissing” don’t be surprised to see they sell well, or is that the reason they are the object of your disaffection?

    Some people in our community do make more money and gather more acclaim but there’s a reason — they are more in touch with the readers and they are more positive.

    They possibly work with positive energy at what they love. Fanaticism is the key to success. Publishers support winners and sales figures determines who stays and who goes. This isn’t personal, this is business.

    Primarily, successful writers do not dwell on rage and anger and others’ discomfort. Personal attacks are not fodder or successful people but spring from the opposite personality type — the loser displaying her anxieties and insecurities, the very things that holds her back from building a strong writing career.

    I’ve learned in the past quarter of a century that truly successful people are compassionate and helpful. We have had some insensitive people writing sensitive books, but there’s a reason if you look beyond.

    One writer was the child of alcoholics, another makes millions but still lurks around the Internet because she has a tremendous need to be in control. One is suffering because her child died. Their actions deserve compassion.

    That’s the way of the world. But they are not muddying our waters so that booksellers from Australia and newcomers have to hear about it. Compassion does not breed contempt.

    New writers and new readers have an option the old-timers didn’t have — the use of the Internet. So use it to improve our slice of the publishing industry. Together we grow, separated we cut our chances.

    To learn how to be positive and attract abundance, watch “The Secret” documentary. Today there is help in showing you how to attract the success you crave. And, believing in yourself is the essential trait, not behaving negatively.

    You don’t have to feel confused and resentful about a romance writing career if you are truly of good heart. Occupying your mind with ill thoughts or wallowng in attracting negative people and forming negative perceptions just continues to perpetuate the cycle of feeling unsuccessful.

    Emotions make things happen, and the people on your posting should be aware that everyone’s words have power; they come back to wreak havoc on the speakers, be it their health, wealth, or happiness. I’ve never seen it fail.

    Perhaps the nay seekers should read Don Miguel Ruiz’s book, about the Four Statements of Life. He says simply:

    Your Words Should be Impeccable (they have power, don’t voice negative things)
    Don’t Pass Judgment (it reveals self esteem)
    Don’t Take Things Personally (comments to hurt you are really the speakers self-thoughts)
    Do Your Best

    I have heard from several people on your post who are saddened by what they read today. One person mentioned has offered her resignation. Another is contemplatiing suicide. Is that what you intended for your blog? Do you want this on your conscience?

    To most of us who devote our lives to publishing, romance is uplifting and increases joyfulness. These intensely negative and vituperative postings make our role so much harder and — most important, cause booksellers and others to doubt their own dedication.

    Anyone who thinks this kind of dialogue on a blog is valuable is truly sick in the heart and the head.

    Everyone reflects our genre, particularly those who are vicious. You can help by encouraging bloggers to consider the repercussions of their actions before lashing out.

    This action, be it name calling or hatred, only reflects the speaker’s deep pent up anger that started long before their involvement with the romance community.

    All writers should know that you can lose support faster than you can build it. So why should the builders ever spawn such negativity? Do you want publishers, booksellers and readers to doubt the validity of their commitment to the romance genre?

    We should be aware that giving recognition to romance bloggers who spew vindictiveness that is personal and harmful, is out of line and out of place, and out of control. This attracts more of the same for the blogger, I might add. Like always attracts Like.

    Blogs of this nature are harmful when they could be productive. Giving frustrated voices a place to say outrageous things to destroy is evil. Why not encourage frustrated women to spin to the positive?

    I’m embarrassed that hardworking booksellers in Australia who authentically love romance novels and the romance authors had to learn that book bloggers endorse people offend our customers — the booksellers and readers. Someone should stand up and say: I’m not taking this anymore.

    Everyone is on such a “high” about the world of romance books after our Houston get together.

    So many people, particularly authors and publishers, are passionately devoted to writing and promoting romance. We all spend long hours at the computers, to the point of endangering our health to be part of the romance community.

    The blog in question that you posted, bashing one or more publishers and authors, is detrimental to the principles of romance.
    If you have influence, please spend your time helping our romance community. People are sensitive and a string of suicides is not what is needed.

    The bashing and airing of such personal attacks is a personal issue reflective of the writer and her rage. From what I see, people with an axe to grind are using you. They sound like (according to today’s diatribes) rejected disgruntled suitors in a romance novel seeking to undermine good will. Why shouldn’t your blog be used for fun and joy, not hatred and harmfulness?

    I’m sure you didn’t intend such a sad development, and can be more aware.

    This bashing is reflective of personal dissatisfaction, not our book biz. They remind me of novel and movie villains who don’t know they are wrong — they think they are just guys trying to make it. However, like attracts like, and nothing good or positive can come out of inappropriate behavior.

    It’s such a “low” (after a week of “high”) to hear that people are attacking and causing unnecessary dissension. WE (the Australian booksellers included) ask ourselves, what is the benefit of this?

    We don’t have time to pay much attention to blogs, but when we hear of people are upset by inconsiderate vicious bloggers who seem committed to spreading bad feelings instead of working in harmony for the good of all, it makes us wonder about who we are supporting with our businesses!!!

    I salute those who say “I won’t condone such viciousness about publishers and writers”. And I warn all to be aware of hearing more pent up rage comments; the good will attract someone’s wrath as this site has attracted a strange frustrated breed of bloggers.

    If this kind of negative mood and behavior is allowed to spread, I predict that no one will care or dare to support romance in the future.

    It will set us back years if we are portrayed as a bunch of jealous females baring their claws, upsetting our colleagues, and seemingly approving of a small group of savagely narcisstic women who can’t stand to see other people succeed.

    We know what to do: support our editors and publishers, support our booksellers and authors, or — if you can’t say “nice” — say nothing. Your words have power, use them appropriately and you will benefit the romance book biz and be a standard bearer. Also, you’ll benefit from peace of mind as well.

    I wish you all peace and bliss….and the enlightenment to pass over a rough patch and avoid this ever happening again.

    Kathryn Falk
    CEO RT BookReviews Magazine
    Rosemary and Margaret Booksellers

  40. AvatarJane
    40

    Dear Ms. Falk,

    I am always astonished at how individuals who profess to support all that is good and wonderful immediately start with ad hominem attacks.

    Is it professional to attack women who support the very genre who make your magazine possible – the readers?

    Is it good for the industry to allow no critical review of whether quality books are being produced?

    To immediately assume that there is some “personal vendetta” or that the bloggers are “ridiculous”. As for your description of the “everywoman” it doesn’t describe this reader of nearly two decades in the romance industry.

    Relentless positivity is not the key to helping the genre. The keep to keeping the genre alive is open minded discussion, whether it be positive or negative. I highly doubt that the romance industry is successful because of the “collective consciousness to do good not evil.” I think that’s laughable. I’ve seen authors eviscerate other authors for failing to be nice. Wouldn’t the collective consciouness be to turn the other cheek? Is it collectively good to suggest bloggers are doing evil if they are not part of the borg you seem to believe controls the romance readers.

    I see that you would like to stamp out the bloggers “who have no idea of the work it takes to be an author and a publisher in today’s competitive market”. They are not welcome in your entirely good not evil construct.

    And those who are confused about romance writing or resentful they aren’t getting a good book are not of good heart?

    It’s despicable of you to suggest that one blog post or one blogger would be responsible for someone contemplating suicide. If someone is contemplating suicide, her disease goes much deeper than a call for better quality at a publishing house. How dare you suggest that this blog post or any blog post is responsible for someone’s choosing death! How do statements like that fit in with your Don Miguel Ruiz’s book quotes?

    I don’t doubt that authors will be leery of posting in dissent as your magazine is a powerful voice within the romance industry. I am glad that I never plan to be anything but a reader in the romance industry; that my livelihood doesn’t depend on walking in lockstep with your careless accusations. “People are sensitive and a string of suicides is not what is needed.” Are you kidding me?

    “It will set us back years if we are portrayed as a bunch of jealous females baring their claws, upsetting our colleagues, and seemingly approving of a small group of savagely narcisstic women who can’t stand to see other people succeed.”

    Yes, that is indeed what will set us back. Not the fact that the you, the owner and leader of one of the most influential romance publications has made some terrible accusations trying to pin a “string of suicides” on one blogger.

  41. AvatarSarah S.G. Frantz
    41

    If that really is Kathryn Falk, she should read this post about RT and Hyatt discriminating against e-pubbed gay m/m erotica writers. And then she can talk about how much she supports all those women writers out there. I’ll admit I didn’t read the entirety of the letter, because it seemed to go off into weirdness pretty soon. JMO. YMMV.

  42. Avatarsybil
    42

    I have to question if this is REALLY Kathryn Falk.

    She can’t be that vain, stupid, crass or have that short of a memory.

    Women have to love everything and encourage others to produce shit, otherwise men will think we are petty and stupid and not support our genre?

    If someone commits suicide over a fucking review they had more problems than a blogger could be blamed for.

    I really do not think this is her. REALLY do not. Of course, if it is… that would way explain the reviews in the RTimes…

  43. Avatarsybil
    43

    okay jane… lets say for grins this katherine, and not a drunk post

    I don’t doubt that authors will be leery of posting in dissent as your magazine is a powerful voice within the romance industry. I am glad that I never plan to be anything but a reader in the romance industry; that my livelihood doesn’t depend on walking in lockstep with your careless accusations.
    She just told us it her ‘zine is successful because she licks the asses of those who pay her.

    You got some dough for some ad space and a publisher to put it out there… send to RT for review and she will tell you how much you rock so you don’t get sad and kill yourself.

    Rock on!

    But really and true, I don’t want to think it is her. I do not. Even if I don’t take the RT for more than summaries this just makes me weep. Women need to blow sunshine up other women’s asses in order for them to succeed?

    There is so much wrong with that post I refuse to think someone with a brain did it.

  44. AvatarSarah S.G. Frantz
    44

    Sybil, if it comes to that, I personally know at least two erotica authors who write gay m/m stories who have had both their advertising dollars refused and who have had their books rejected for review at RT because of content and “concern” that they weren’t writing “real” romance. Yeah, let’s support everyone. Except those we disagree with. Woohoo.

  45. AvatarAnonymous
    45

    Holy crap all this because the book sucked? Anybody that wants a book published can now go to EC to get it published because their standards have gone down the drain, thus this crappy book and many others are worthless. Porn is porn, you can dress it up all you want but this book was badly written porn and I want my money back.

  46. AvatarCasee
    46

    I have heard from several people on your post who are saddened by what they read today. One person mentioned has offered her resignation. Another is contemplatiing suicide. Is that what you intended for your blog? Do you want this on your conscience?

    Whether or not this person is Kathryn Falk, would you seriously put the “blame” for suicidal thoughts on someone other than the person that is suicidal? In my opinion, that shows ignorance right there. In all the book reviewer blogs I’ve read (including this one), the reviews are done for readers. I’m not familiar enough with this blog to say this, but in most other blogs I’ve read, it is a reader forum. It is not intended to tell any author they should throw in the towel.

    I’m just baffled by the whole comment.

  47. AvatarNicolette
    47

    Readers have a right to share their opinions, especially in well-thought out and articulate pieces. This can only help the genre by promoting quality and producing more book sales.

    I bought the book in question based on Karen’s review, and actually enjoyed it more than she did. The book, just by virtue of being reviewed, stood out in a sea of new releases.

    It insults and embarrasses me when people in the industry imply that people should lie about the quality of books in order to be supportive. Perhaps this supports the writer, but who’s looking out for the reader? Burn people enough times and they stop buying the product.

    We all know there are drive-by reviewers who just insult to insult, but a woman well-versed in the genre should be able to express to other literate and intelligent women why she did not enjoy a certain book.

    Not every book can be beloved, and why would we want them to be? Why would other writers want to be positively reviewed just because the wimmenfolk have to stick together?

    I don’t think there is a writer out there who never got panned, so why is it only in this genre that a negative review is synonymous with disloyalty?

    Karen and others help us all — the readers making a choice, the writers wanting their books to be discussed, the people who think these books should be taken seriously.

    An articulate blogger taking the books seriously strengthens us all more than all the retro “good girls don’t say ’shit’ even if they have a mouth full of it” sentiment in the world.

    People still don’t take us seriously, but I promise you that sunny blurbs on inferior prose is not the way to get respect.

    I think the writer in question should be proud of having a contract, glad that people are buying her books due to the buzz, and taking notes of ways to knock the detractors socks off. I sincerely wish her the best, and that includes *good* reviews fairly given.

  48. Avatarjmc
    48

    I was originally prepared to just roll my eyes at Ms. Falk’s comment, and to dismiss it as another Let’s All Be Nice and Not Rock the Boat post. The inspirational advice? Meh. I tend to not take advice from strangers, thank you. But the suicide comment pushed me over the edge.

    It offends every particle of my being that anyone would casually throw out accusations about causing someone to kill him- or herself. People who commit suicide tend to have serious problems: either mental health problems or other problems in their lives that are so huge that they cannot see around them. A single review is not what causes their death; their desperation or their illness does. It is a decision and an action, perhaps made under duress and while in pain, but an action of that person nonetheless.

    I’m revolted by Ms. Falk’s accusation and disgusted by it being dragged into this discussion. To paraphrase Jon Stewart’s interview with Bill Moyers when discussing John McCain and the Iraq War, that sort of thing is the cudgel that people use when they are unwilling to address the issue at hand and simply want to browbeat others into submission. It was a poor, cheap shot and unworthy of anyone of taste or sensibility.

  49. AvatarBev (BB)
    49

    Wow, I’m impressed. I’ve never seen anyone get hit with the Lady Barrow card before, fake or not.

    Since I haven’t got time at the moment to indulge in the usual analyze it to death, I only have one question. Exactly what nerve did this hit, people?

    Step back from your initial reactions and think about that because this is a LOT out of the norm for someone to pull any way one looks at it. That’s not a name to simply yank out of thin air. Is there any way to trace the comment’s true origins?

  50. AvatarAlison
    50

    The ludicrous suicide comments aside, how can any businesswoman think that the way to earn respect is blanket support of an industry. Would businessMEN take that stance? Or would they be more about taking steps toward improvement?

  51. AvatarAnonymous
    51

    OKAY. I fess up. I wrote the blog in Kathryn Falk’s name because I knew it was the only way to get anyone’s attention. She’s on the sosamericainc.org link and her barrow email is easy to tap into…..

    I consider myself a terrorist, stirring up all the sicksos. I’m formerly with the Baltimore Romnance writers group, and I notice that ellie the eavesdropper aka nora roberts is at it again.

    Good thing she has such fantastic software that enables her computer to write the same books all the time. How does she find time to snoop and descend to the depths we bloggers like to operate on. We are sickos, to go on and on about people, out to destroy that’s us ….I know it, that’s why I do it. And the more “nice” people I implicate, the better. And it’s true about the suicidal woman, she wrote to me and cried. Who cares!!!

    Betty the Boozer

  52. AvatarAnonymous
    52

    I should have known it was you Betty. The book terrorist strikes again. How many dead author bodies can we accumulate — that’s the trick!

    Let’s destroy the genre, make people take up horror as you have suggested in the past!

    Blood on the trail….I’m from Essex. Can we crash the concert in Barrow? We’ll wear goth!!

    Vileness is IN

  53. AvatarAnonymous
    53

    Betty you are a trouble maker for sure. Next time you’ll have laura bush writing in….

    Get Real!

    Only young people and old lurkers do blogs.

    Buit I did like those four statements: Not taking things personally isn’t a bad thought as I’m sure you’ll slug me in the next posting!

    Rife the Knife

  54. AvatarNora Roberts
    54

    ~I’m formerly with the Baltimore Romnance writers group, and I notice that ellie the eavesdropper aka nora roberts is at it again.

    Good thing she has such fantastic software that enables her computer to write the same books all the time. How does she find time to snoop and descend to the depths we bloggers like to operate on.~

    Huh?

  55. AvatarNicole
    55

    All I have to say is this has got to be one of the worst covers I’ve ever seen. Ick!

  56. AvatarErastes
    56

    Ms Falk you are talking out of your arse.

    “f you can’t say “nice” — say nothing”

    What a ridiculous statement.

    “I’m the only woman to own a magazine”

    What Hubris!!! No, you aren’t.

    What “personal vendetta” has this reader got by giving this dreadful book (and yes it is – I’ve read it) a bad review? Since when did personal opinions have hidden undermeaning?

    Perhaps, as you are going to be in England soon, you would like to ring me, and we can discuss your antipathy to m/m? You say that “anyone int he romance world is invited”

    Would Ms Baumbach? With promo material? Would I, with my homosexual historical romance?

    You aren’t Everywoman, I’m afraid. You are only prepared to represent people who want to have books that don’t make them feel uncomfortable. I understand you are after the great yankee dollar and that you would lose readers if you embraced that – yes – gay people want romance too – but at least you could say the things you said in this blog without looking the hypocrite you do now.

  57. AvatarAnonymous
    57

    Ms. Falk Said:
    “E-publishers had little support in the beginning. I made certain my magazine promoted them to the best of our ability.”

    Excuse me? Who is she trying to kid? I remember when they used to tell epublishers they wouldn’t take their ads. Yes I’ve been around in the industry long enough to remember a publisher being refused ad placement.

    It was only after EC got the nod from RWA that they got so pro-epublisher.

    But that’s no shock really. It’s much the same way you now take money from authors of m/m romance in order to ‘get a review’ then don’t review them because that’s your new thing not to support. It’s all about the money isn’t it?

    And for the record, it’s women reading those ‘gay romance’ books, your stated target market.

    Even EC saw the light on the m/m score, but then again they noticed they were loosing customers to pubs that HAD actual m/m titles.

    Too bad EC has slid down into a morass of mediocrity and porn without plot, which can be gotten for free at any fanfiction or other free to read site like Literotica. Sadly much of the fanfiction out there is better written than the titles I’ve seen coming out from EC.

    From a former Small Press Publisher and Editor.

  58. AvatarEmily Veinglory
    58

    A reader blogging their personal opinion has nothing to do with anyone but other readers who value her opinion. I am seriously astonished at Ms Falk statements which seem based on a very perculiar world view and the assumption that everyone’s motive are complex, emotional, personal and althogether sinister.

    Try this: maybe Karen said she didn’t like the book because, um, she didn’t like the book–and that is all.

  59. AvatarAnonymous
    59

    Okay, just a thought. Maybe Kathryn Falk wrote the book? And have a 12-book contract with EC?

    Just sayin’.

  60. AvatarAmelia Elias
    60

    No, I don’t buy it–no way that’s Kathryn Falk. That long, rambling, mostly unintelligable post can’t be from a serious businesswoman. I refuse to believe it.

    And now I’m wanting to buy this book to see what the horror’s about, too. Perhaps I’ll get a friend to do the same, and we can read and mock it together. Sort of a MST3K thing for books.

    Honestly, bad reviews aren’t the end of the world. I’ve had my share–who hasn’t?–and if someone reads a horrible review and then picks up one of my books to mock the crap out of it? Go for it, hon. That royalty money spends just the same as a rabid fan’s does.

  61. AvatarAmelia Elias
    61

    Btw, Nora, where can I get some of that software? I’m totally jealous now. Instant Best-Seller, just add chocolate! It’s the romance author’s best friend! C’mon, you gotta tell me where to get it, pleeeeeeeeeeze???

  62. AvatarAnonymous
    62

    I’ve also noticed a rise in the publication of amaturish books, Makes me bugnuts…and at the price of books, very cranky.

    Although EC is releasing about twice as many new titles as before, I find myself purchasing less. A noticable drop in quality.

    -dl

  63. AvatarKat O+
    63

    I’d love to know how many people bought this book as a result of this and DA’s reviews. Because if it’s substantial, that would be a great counter-argument to the mean-bloggers-ruin-livelihoods whinge…er, complaint, supported by actual numbers.

    I notice Mrs G gave this book a score of 80. Maybe you have to be in a certain frame of mind to appreciate it–the difference between a total flop and a cult classic.

  64. AvatarAnonymous
    64

    The alleged Falk wrote: “Romance is the most successful genre of all time because people have banded together with a collective consciousness to do good not evil.”

    So…do I have to start wearing Spandex again?

    :confused romance editor and writer who HAS cleaned her closets out since the 80s and doesn’t know where to find Spandex hero-suits to fit her double XL arse and is thinking wobbling around in Spandex would be a really bad idea anyway and if Falk really wrote that–WTF????–and where can she sign up for this doing-good thing ’cause it sounds really keen, but do you have to pay dues and is it deductable as a business expense or do we have to keep it secret ’cause I’m really terrible at that and might blab it to Miss Snark or someone without meaning to … :

    – an excerpt from that collective consciousness.

  65. AvatarJenyfer Matthews
    65

    Geez…I’m thinking of sending my book to you, Karen, and to Ms. Giggles. This much attention – even negative – can’t be a bad thing!!! LOL
    Jenyfer
    http://www.jenyfermatthews.com

  66. AvatarNora Roberts
    66

    Sorry, AE, one of the many ghost writers I have chained in my basement invented the magic software in order to earn more cookies. And only I can use it.

    Heh, heh, heh.

  67. AvatarAnonymous
    67

    (Editor’s hat on.)

    I am not buying the book based on a negative review, but on the excerpt posted at the EC site. I got three paragraphs in and had to stop. It was just too bloody awful.

    Had I been checking through the slush pile that day the writer would have gotten a “thank you and good luck elsewhere” type of rejection.

    Poor sentence structure and word reps that a 5th grade English teacher would catch somehow got past EC’s editorial staff.

    If EC is “hard up” for good editors I *am* available.

    This is the level of writing they are accepting?

    Ew.

    They are in BIG trouble.

  68. AvatarAnonymous
    68

    I’m one of the authors EC turned down because the book didn’t have enough sex in it, and the characters weren’t having sex by Chapter 3.

    My co-author and I weren’t interested in adding more sex.

    On the flip side, we sent them another work in which the first three chapters were the chars first night together. Last time I write anything like that. But we figured if they want more sex…. well, it fit. *L*

    They liked it and wanted to read the rest, but told us it might be another year before they made a decision on it. So we said no, thanks.

    Rather glad we did after everything I’ve been hearing.

    shayne@theprincesangel.com

  69. AvatarLeigh Ellwood
    69

    I’m intrigued. Giggles gave this book an 80. She’s ranked mine lower. I shudder to think what Karen would make of my work.

    *hides*

  70. AvatarKaren Scott
    70

    Yeah, but Giggles enjoyed the sheer badness of it. I have books that I knew were really terrible, but enjoyed them all the same, lol.

  71. AvatarKate Willoughby
    71

    I am a new EC author and I have been asked to make some of my scenes sexier, or to add a sex scene. I completely understand that this is because of reader expectation.

    I, myself, once read an e-book that was advertised as super hot and it was only lukewarm. This did make me mad, so I understand where the EC editors that I have worked with might want to increase the sexy factor. I assume that they know their readers better than I do.

    HOWEVER, as the Writer of The Book, I feel completely comfortable arguing against any changes that would jeopardize the integrity of the book/characters. The editor that I am currently working with is level-headed and skilled, so I can’t speak about the general ability of the rest of the editing staff.

    I find it very telling that the person who keeps trash-talking EC is anonymous.

    And if any of you Nora ghostwriters are out there, I bake a mean snickerdoodle, and I’d give you your own bedroom!

  72. AvatarDarragha!
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    Even Ben’s friends have noticed the size of his pecker.

    Ummmm…my cousin is nicknamed Pony for a reason–and I’ve never seen *it* in the flesh–but jeez…the man should never walk around in his boxers. His former wife (that’s right ladies…he’s single) used to call him Pony all the time. His lesbian mothers-in-law (yes, lesbian mothers in law) once poked him through his sweats and said, “Lookie…I touched it!” And she was a 72 year old never-had-sex-with-a-man lesbian. Okay…TMI….at any rate…sometimes folks do know how big a guy’s schlong is.

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