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		<title>By: sexii_back_gurl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow! So I&#039;m going through this site and I crashed into that logo about NCP and then clicked on it. Never expected that. That email is absolutely terrifying!  

She says she&#039;s from the south? Holy hell I&#039;ve met TONS of southern women and none of them are like that. They don&#039;t take crap from anyone but they are more polite about it. Damn--is it me or can anyone own a business these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow! So I&#8217;m going through this site and I crashed into that logo about NCP and then clicked on it. Never expected that. That email is absolutely terrifying!  </p>
<p>She says she&#8217;s from the south? Holy hell I&#8217;ve met TONS of southern women and none of them are like that. They don&#8217;t take crap from anyone but they are more polite about it. Damn&#8211;is it me or can anyone own a business these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Pride &#38; RWA Precedence: The Devil&#8217;s Advocate &#124; The Naughty Bits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pride &#38; RWA Precedence: The Devil&#8217;s Advocate &#124; The Naughty Bits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] made. It takes a little work so far but I feel comfortable in conservative in what I do down to why New Concepts Publishing or Torquere Press are not on my list either. It is not perfect or even scientific though because I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] made. It takes a little work so far but I feel comfortable in conservative in what I do down to why New Concepts Publishing or Torquere Press are not on my list either. It is not perfect or even scientific though because I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Review, Market for Love, Jamaica Layne &#171; Racy Romance Reviews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Review, Market for Love, Jamaica Layne &#171; Racy Romance Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New Concepts Publishing (yes, that New Concepts, the one of the web furor earlier this year at  Karen Knows Best and Dear Author) Market for Love is published under the Cheek imprint, a division of Random House, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] New Concepts Publishing (yes, that New Concepts, the one of the web furor earlier this year at  Karen Knows Best and Dear Author) Market for Love is published under the Cheek imprint, a division of Random House, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at Fictionwise last weekend during their big micropay rebate sale.  I saw a book that looked REALLY interesting to me, but right before I was about to buy it, noticed it was an NCP title.  I didn&#039;t buy it.  I went back and made sure the other two books in my cart weren&#039;t NCP books. 

I wouldn&#039;t have even noticed the publisher a couple of months ago, but all this NCP nonsense lost them a sale.  I was wondering if they&#039;d reformed, but seeing this makes me glad I didn&#039;t buy the book.  I feel bad for the author who lost a sale though. It might have been a better book than the one I did buy. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at Fictionwise last weekend during their big micropay rebate sale.  I saw a book that looked REALLY interesting to me, but right before I was about to buy it, noticed it was an NCP title.  I didn&#8217;t buy it.  I went back and made sure the other two books in my cart weren&#8217;t NCP books. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t have even noticed the publisher a couple of months ago, but all this NCP nonsense lost them a sale.  I was wondering if they&#8217;d reformed, but seeing this makes me glad I didn&#8217;t buy the book.  I feel bad for the author who lost a sale though. It might have been a better book than the one I did buy. <img src='http://karenknowsbest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Torquere Press: The Case Of The Poison Pen Names &#124; The Naughty Bits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torquere Press: The Case Of The Poison Pen Names &#124; The Naughty Bits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been a great deal of discussion concerning New Concepts Publishing and the antics of one Madris DePasture. So much so that even though I thoroughly enjoyed Dani Harper&#8217;s Heart Of The Winter Wolf I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been a great deal of discussion concerning New Concepts Publishing and the antics of one Madris DePasture. So much so that even though I thoroughly enjoyed Dani Harper&#8217;s Heart Of The Winter Wolf I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cher Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cher Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anya, I actually went to college there my very first quarter away at school--1974.  Whew!  A long time ago.

Cher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anya, I actually went to college there my very first quarter away at school&#8211;1974.  Whew!  A long time ago.</p>
<p>Cher</p>
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		<title>By: Desiree (Anya)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desiree (Anya)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have edited myself better there, Cher, and said &lt;em&gt;&quot;from any other place on the planet.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; But thank you, and am glad you understood what I meant. As I&#039;ve said many times before, I&#039;ve now proved again that yes, authors DO need editors LOL

BTW, I lived in Valdosta, GA for a time when I was a child :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have edited myself better there, Cher, and said <em>&#8220;from any other place on the planet.&#8221;</em> But thank you, and am glad you understood what I meant. As I&#8217;ve said many times before, I&#8217;ve now proved again that yes, authors DO need editors LOL</p>
<p>BTW, I lived in Valdosta, GA for a time when I was a child <img src='http://karenknowsbest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cher Gorman</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2008/10/13/every-single-author-who-has-gone-on-record-trashing-this-company-on-the-internet-is-in-breach-and-has-made-my-list/comment-page-1/#comment-24905</link>
		<dc:creator>Cher Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desiree (Anya)  I have lived in Colorado for 21 years but I was raised in Georgia.  I completely agree that no well bred Southern woman conducts herself in such a vitriolic manner.  Or as you said neither Scottish or any other nationality would respond in such an unprofessional manner.

Cher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desiree (Anya)  I have lived in Colorado for 21 years but I was raised in Georgia.  I completely agree that no well bred Southern woman conducts herself in such a vitriolic manner.  Or as you said neither Scottish or any other nationality would respond in such an unprofessional manner.</p>
<p>Cher</p>
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		<title>By: Desiree (Anya)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desiree (Anya)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Karen, I&#039;ve been away for some weeks and just got back online today, and one of the first things that hits my attention is this.

The thing that once again I find almost unbelievable is this publisher&#039;s seeming shocked response to an author&#039;s words. For months the NCP author promotion loop at Yahoogroups has seemed virtually suppressed to posts by those viewed as traitors. (The last time I recall trying to post was to express condolences to the news that another author had lost a family member, and even this was not allowed through.) And suppression isn&#039;t enough, apparently, when even author blogs are vulnerable to the whims of &lt;em&gt;you copyrighted my words forwarded to you!&lt;/em&gt; scenarios. With these kind of suppressive tactics in place, I have to ask: what other kind of response did this publisher truly expect from those under NCP surveillance? For people to lay down like sheep and let the truth be gagged? Over the last few months I&#039;ve read the many posts Ms. DePasture has sent out on the loop. I don&#039;t quote her, I don&#039;t re-post her words, I don&#039;t distribute her posts. But I am one of those indeed fed up with what I feel is a practice of high-handed and hypocritical behavior. I may be wrong, but this is the feeling that her general tone leaves me with. 

For my part, I did not promise, vow or agree to support the company, New Concepts Publishing. In my contract I agreed to promote my book, which I did. I therefore resent being reprimanded for not fulfilling a clause for which I did not agree to. Also, being a woman born and bred in the South, the sentiments and accusations reflected in Ms. DePasture&#039;s latest post does NOT reflect the behavior and decorum that I was taught is the mark of a lady, whether that lady be Southern, Scottish or any other place on the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Karen, I&#8217;ve been away for some weeks and just got back online today, and one of the first things that hits my attention is this.</p>
<p>The thing that once again I find almost unbelievable is this publisher&#8217;s seeming shocked response to an author&#8217;s words. For months the NCP author promotion loop at Yahoogroups has seemed virtually suppressed to posts by those viewed as traitors. (The last time I recall trying to post was to express condolences to the news that another author had lost a family member, and even this was not allowed through.) And suppression isn&#8217;t enough, apparently, when even author blogs are vulnerable to the whims of <em>you copyrighted my words forwarded to you!</em> scenarios. With these kind of suppressive tactics in place, I have to ask: what other kind of response did this publisher truly expect from those under NCP surveillance? For people to lay down like sheep and let the truth be gagged? Over the last few months I&#8217;ve read the many posts Ms. DePasture has sent out on the loop. I don&#8217;t quote her, I don&#8217;t re-post her words, I don&#8217;t distribute her posts. But I am one of those indeed fed up with what I feel is a practice of high-handed and hypocritical behavior. I may be wrong, but this is the feeling that her general tone leaves me with. </p>
<p>For my part, I did not promise, vow or agree to support the company, New Concepts Publishing. In my contract I agreed to promote my book, which I did. I therefore resent being reprimanded for not fulfilling a clause for which I did not agree to. Also, being a woman born and bred in the South, the sentiments and accusations reflected in Ms. DePasture&#8217;s latest post does NOT reflect the behavior and decorum that I was taught is the mark of a lady, whether that lady be Southern, Scottish or any other place on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Cher Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cher Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Writers and authors don&#039;t sign with a publisher like NCP &quot;knowing&quot; they are going to get &quot;the treatment&quot; just so they can be published.  That&#039;s ridiculous! I certainly didn&#039;t!

No author knows this going in.  There are a lot of good, reputable, honest e-publishers out there like Loose Id, The Wild Rose Press, Amber Quill Press...that treat their authors very, very well.  I mean with respect for the author and their work.  And being e-published doesn&#039;t diminish the quality of the author&#039;s work even a little bit.  Good e-pubs are looking for quality work as well as print publishers.  Just because you&#039;re e-pubbed doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re desperate or that it was easy for you to get published.  

Kate Duffy stated a few months back on the Fog City Divas blog that at first she thought e-pubs didn&#039;t have what it took to compete with print publishers but she admits she was wrong.  She said &quot;There&#039;s gold in them there hills.&quot;

I do think that e-pubs are willing to take a chance on a new author when a lot of print publishers aren&#039;t.  And I think it simply comes down to dollars.  Print is expensive, no doubt about it.  Not to mention the number of people it takes to get a novel on a bookstore shelf.  Being e-pubbed is a lot less expensive even though an e-pub does have expenditures in publishing --editorial and cover costs for instance.  I was lucky and also blessed that Loose Id gave me my first chance at publication.  Working with an editor is a phenomenal experience.  My writer&#039;s learning curve went way, way up.  I learned so much with that first book. So when I received my edits on the second one they were so minor I couldn&#039;t believe it.

After the little Rocky Horror Publishing Show I&#039;ve been through with NCP, I had firmly decided never to send anything to any e-pub again--at least one I had never worked with before.  Then two days ago I received an invitation to submit to Amber Quill Press.  I am going to consider it because my book would not only be electronic but print as well.  However, my most immediate goal is to submit to print publishers first and foremost simply because I want the pleasure of walking into a brick and mortar store and seeing my little story on the shelf.  I do have a complete ms on a print publishers desk at the moment that I&#039;m still waiting to hear from.  It&#039;s been there OVER 2 years!  One good thing about an e-pub is that the wait time is a lot less.

Cher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Writers and authors don&#8217;t sign with a publisher like NCP &#8220;knowing&#8221; they are going to get &#8220;the treatment&#8221; just so they can be published.  That&#8217;s ridiculous! I certainly didn&#8217;t!</p>
<p>No author knows this going in.  There are a lot of good, reputable, honest e-publishers out there like Loose Id, The Wild Rose Press, Amber Quill Press&#8230;that treat their authors very, very well.  I mean with respect for the author and their work.  And being e-published doesn&#8217;t diminish the quality of the author&#8217;s work even a little bit.  Good e-pubs are looking for quality work as well as print publishers.  Just because you&#8217;re e-pubbed doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re desperate or that it was easy for you to get published.  </p>
<p>Kate Duffy stated a few months back on the Fog City Divas blog that at first she thought e-pubs didn&#8217;t have what it took to compete with print publishers but she admits she was wrong.  She said &#8220;There&#8217;s gold in them there hills.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do think that e-pubs are willing to take a chance on a new author when a lot of print publishers aren&#8217;t.  And I think it simply comes down to dollars.  Print is expensive, no doubt about it.  Not to mention the number of people it takes to get a novel on a bookstore shelf.  Being e-pubbed is a lot less expensive even though an e-pub does have expenditures in publishing &#8211;editorial and cover costs for instance.  I was lucky and also blessed that Loose Id gave me my first chance at publication.  Working with an editor is a phenomenal experience.  My writer&#8217;s learning curve went way, way up.  I learned so much with that first book. So when I received my edits on the second one they were so minor I couldn&#8217;t believe it.</p>
<p>After the little Rocky Horror Publishing Show I&#8217;ve been through with NCP, I had firmly decided never to send anything to any e-pub again&#8211;at least one I had never worked with before.  Then two days ago I received an invitation to submit to Amber Quill Press.  I am going to consider it because my book would not only be electronic but print as well.  However, my most immediate goal is to submit to print publishers first and foremost simply because I want the pleasure of walking into a brick and mortar store and seeing my little story on the shelf.  I do have a complete ms on a print publishers desk at the moment that I&#8217;m still waiting to hear from.  It&#8217;s been there OVER 2 years!  One good thing about an e-pub is that the wait time is a lot less.</p>
<p>Cher</p>
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