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		<title>By: Bouquets and Blogbats Feb 09 &#124; Racy Romance Reviews</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2009/01/28/credibility-and-reputation-a-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-31949</link>
		<dc:creator>Bouquets and Blogbats Feb 09 &#124; Racy Romance Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The discussions of objectivity and bias in reviewing initiated by Azteclady at Karen Knows Best and Jane at Dear Author (and especially Janet/Robin&#8217;s tough questions, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah Frantz</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2009/01/28/credibility-and-reputation-a-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-31085</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Frantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t disagree with what you&#039;re saying, GrowlyCub--absolutely applicable and I don&#039;t feel that you were picking on me in particular. I guess I&#039;m just expressing MY frustration with parts of this whole conversation. And I guess my question for the populace at large about this issue (or for anyone who still cares about this) is, should the perception of impropriety by a vocal few affect my actions in any way?  This is obviously precisely the question that AztecLady was asking, of course, and the consensus seems to be yes for her, but, no matter what people have said, I *don&#039;t* have the same relationship with Brockmann that AL has with Aguirre. If more people than not gain something from my review, again, where does that leave me?  Sigh.  Sorry to reopen the debate. I&#039;ll try to leave well enough alone. Here&#039;s hoping gmail doesn&#039;t burp again! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with what you&#8217;re saying, GrowlyCub&#8211;absolutely applicable and I don&#8217;t feel that you were picking on me in particular. I guess I&#8217;m just expressing MY frustration with parts of this whole conversation. And I guess my question for the populace at large about this issue (or for anyone who still cares about this) is, should the perception of impropriety by a vocal few affect my actions in any way?  This is obviously precisely the question that AztecLady was asking, of course, and the consensus seems to be yes for her, but, no matter what people have said, I *don&#8217;t* have the same relationship with Brockmann that AL has with Aguirre. If more people than not gain something from my review, again, where does that leave me?  Sigh.  Sorry to reopen the debate. I&#8217;ll try to leave well enough alone. Here&#8217;s hoping gmail doesn&#8217;t burp again! <img src='http://karenknowsbest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GrowlyCub</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2009/01/28/credibility-and-reputation-a-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-31084</link>
		<dc:creator>GrowlyCub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was replying to Azteclady&#039;s question and I was re-iterating what others had said before me.  And the reason I brought your review up was because some people perceived impropriety, and I was using that as an example that no actual impropriety has to happen for folks to perceive it.

If you are offended by that, sorry, but regardless of how many people found the review helpful, the question of ethics/review objectivity was raised, so the discussion around your review was applicable to Aztec&#039;s question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was replying to Azteclady&#8217;s question and I was re-iterating what others had said before me.  And the reason I brought your review up was because some people perceived impropriety, and I was using that as an example that no actual impropriety has to happen for folks to perceive it.</p>
<p>If you are offended by that, sorry, but regardless of how many people found the review helpful, the question of ethics/review objectivity was raised, so the discussion around your review was applicable to Aztec&#8217;s question.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Frantz</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2009/01/28/credibility-and-reputation-a-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-31083</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Frantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason, I just got GrowlyCub&#039;s comment #25 delivered via subscription (gmail burp?), so I&#039;m responding to that, even though it&#039;s pretty old.

growlycub said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;But I think, your question and the question raised about Sarah&#039;s review on DA illustrate what somebody else already pointed out. It doesn&#039;t matter whether there is actual impropriety going on, if there is just the possibility or suspicion of it.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What if this seriously offends me? Not you, in particular, of course, but this implication.  Okay, some people think that there&#039;s an appearance of impropriety, but most didn&#039;t (if you read all the responses to my review). Most found it a very helpful review, written by someone with deep knowledge of Brockmann&#039;s writing--a fact that some felt added to review, rather than making it suspect. Leaving aside the fact that *I* don&#039;t think there was any impropriety, personally, because my personal feelings obviously don&#039;t count in this matter, I think that there were some very vocal people who thought I was too fangirly but many more who found value in my review. So, where does that leave us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, I just got GrowlyCub&#8217;s comment #25 delivered via subscription (gmail burp?), so I&#8217;m responding to that, even though it&#8217;s pretty old.</p>
<p>growlycub said: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;But I think, your question and the question raised about Sarah&#8217;s review on DA illustrate what somebody else already pointed out. It doesn&#8217;t matter whether there is actual impropriety going on, if there is just the possibility or suspicion of it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>What if this seriously offends me? Not you, in particular, of course, but this implication.  Okay, some people think that there&#8217;s an appearance of impropriety, but most didn&#8217;t (if you read all the responses to my review). Most found it a very helpful review, written by someone with deep knowledge of Brockmann&#8217;s writing&#8211;a fact that some felt added to review, rather than making it suspect. Leaving aside the fact that *I* don&#8217;t think there was any impropriety, personally, because my personal feelings obviously don&#8217;t count in this matter, I think that there were some very vocal people who thought I was too fangirly but many more who found value in my review. So, where does that leave us?</p>
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		<title>By: AztecLady</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2009/01/28/credibility-and-reputation-a-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-30989</link>
		<dc:creator>AztecLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eeeekkkk....! Clarification: Ann &lt;strong&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/strong&gt; ask me to review her upcoming books--I have been pouting because &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; want to.

Self-indulgent of me, obviously.

(still pouting)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eeeekkkk&#8230;.! Clarification: Ann <strong>didn&#8217;t</strong> ask me to review her upcoming books&#8211;I have been pouting because <em>I</em> want to.</p>
<p>Self-indulgent of me, obviously.</p>
<p>(still pouting)</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Sorenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Sorenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t ask an assistant (ha, if I had one) to evaluate my work.  I&#039;d always wonder if she was being 100% honest, or trying to stay in my good graces. 

I say don&#039;t do it.

Ann is a gifted author who will get many other great reviews.  She&#039;s made a choice, to have a business relationship with you, not an author/reviewer one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t ask an assistant (ha, if I had one) to evaluate my work.  I&#8217;d always wonder if she was being 100% honest, or trying to stay in my good graces. </p>
<p>I say don&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>Ann is a gifted author who will get many other great reviews.  She&#8217;s made a choice, to have a business relationship with you, not an author/reviewer one.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunita</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2009/01/28/credibility-and-reputation-a-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-30987</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely don&#039;t review books for people with whom you have a business relationship, whether it involves financial or in-kind compensation.  It&#039;s not fair to yourself, the author, or the reader; even if you did the most honest and objective review in the world, parsing out the possible conflicts of interest will give all involved major headaches.

I really don&#039;t think this is about whether a reviewer who is emotionally or financially attached to an author or her work can be &quot;honest&quot; or &quot;objective.&quot; I&#039;m sure that even the biggest fangrrrl has likes and dislikes among her faves and can write about them.  The problem for the readers of the review is that we don&#039;t know how the relationship affects the overall approach the reviewer brings to the review, and we don&#039;t know what the reviewer is cutting the author more or less slack on.  Are you more forgiving of certain lapses in style, plotting, etc., than you would be with someone whose work you didn&#039;t know?  If you trust the author, does that make you accept things in the book that you would flag for someone else?  If the book sags in the middle, do you not take note of that because you have confidence that the author will pick up the pace and deliver a terrific resolution?  In other words, the more you bring your good feelings about the author to the table, the less you can provide a useful review for those who don&#039;t share your feelings.  And if the review is supposed to be for the reader, this is a problem.

I second (third? fourth?) TeddyPig&#039;s suggestion that you find other ways to bring attention to the book when you feel strongly about it.  Definitely write a post that emphasizes why you are so taken with the author&#039;s work and how this book reflects those attributes.  Or just pimp it. :-) People who trust you as a reviewer are going to use that info even if it&#039;s not in review form.  But whatever you do, avoid the standard review format.  That just suggests a uniformity with other reviews you do, a uniformity that isn&#039;t there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely don&#8217;t review books for people with whom you have a business relationship, whether it involves financial or in-kind compensation.  It&#8217;s not fair to yourself, the author, or the reader; even if you did the most honest and objective review in the world, parsing out the possible conflicts of interest will give all involved major headaches.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think this is about whether a reviewer who is emotionally or financially attached to an author or her work can be &#8220;honest&#8221; or &#8220;objective.&#8221; I&#8217;m sure that even the biggest fangrrrl has likes and dislikes among her faves and can write about them.  The problem for the readers of the review is that we don&#8217;t know how the relationship affects the overall approach the reviewer brings to the review, and we don&#8217;t know what the reviewer is cutting the author more or less slack on.  Are you more forgiving of certain lapses in style, plotting, etc., than you would be with someone whose work you didn&#8217;t know?  If you trust the author, does that make you accept things in the book that you would flag for someone else?  If the book sags in the middle, do you not take note of that because you have confidence that the author will pick up the pace and deliver a terrific resolution?  In other words, the more you bring your good feelings about the author to the table, the less you can provide a useful review for those who don&#8217;t share your feelings.  And if the review is supposed to be for the reader, this is a problem.</p>
<p>I second (third? fourth?) TeddyPig&#8217;s suggestion that you find other ways to bring attention to the book when you feel strongly about it.  Definitely write a post that emphasizes why you are so taken with the author&#8217;s work and how this book reflects those attributes.  Or just pimp it. <img src='http://karenknowsbest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  People who trust you as a reviewer are going to use that info even if it&#8217;s not in review form.  But whatever you do, avoid the standard review format.  That just suggests a uniformity with other reviews you do, a uniformity that isn&#8217;t there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon76</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2009/01/28/credibility-and-reputation-a-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-30979</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Jigisha, there is a difference between being a fan and having a friend or working relationship with an author. And for that second, TeddyP nails it on the head. You can be supportive without actually doing a review of the book.

On the flip side, as an author (and reviewer at one time), I got all squiggy feeling when friends/cohorts reviewed my book. I could never get past the fact that our relationship might have colored the review. Any glowing praise was quickly dismissed, and to this day I don&#039;t know if said praise was deserved or not.

Hence, I found it much easier to take the stance of not reviewing a book for another in such instances. I&#039;m not the type that can give a glowing review if I don&#039;t really mean it (but I know many who can.) And I don&#039;t want to hurt my compadres&#039; feelings. So for my own personal peace of mind, I stay away from such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Jigisha, there is a difference between being a fan and having a friend or working relationship with an author. And for that second, TeddyP nails it on the head. You can be supportive without actually doing a review of the book.</p>
<p>On the flip side, as an author (and reviewer at one time), I got all squiggy feeling when friends/cohorts reviewed my book. I could never get past the fact that our relationship might have colored the review. Any glowing praise was quickly dismissed, and to this day I don&#8217;t know if said praise was deserved or not.</p>
<p>Hence, I found it much easier to take the stance of not reviewing a book for another in such instances. I&#8217;m not the type that can give a glowing review if I don&#8217;t really mean it (but I know many who can.) And I don&#8217;t want to hurt my compadres&#8217; feelings. So for my own personal peace of mind, I stay away from such things.</p>
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		<title>By: K. Z. Snow</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2009/01/28/credibility-and-reputation-a-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-30957</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Z. Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 05:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s any question at all, just don&#039;t do it!

Ann&#039;s a superb, accomplished writer whose work largely speaks for itself.  I suspect her books are regularly reviewed elsewhere (probably at quite a few elsewheres) and she&#039;s built a solid fanbase.  

Simply mentioning she has a new book out or coming out would, I think, be fine.  But a full-blown review?  Not so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s any question at all, just don&#8217;t do it!</p>
<p>Ann&#8217;s a superb, accomplished writer whose work largely speaks for itself.  I suspect her books are regularly reviewed elsewhere (probably at quite a few elsewheres) and she&#8217;s built a solid fanbase.  </p>
<p>Simply mentioning she has a new book out or coming out would, I think, be fine.  But a full-blown review?  Not so.</p>
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		<title>By: Seressia</title>
		<link>http://karenknowsbest.com/2009/01/28/credibility-and-reputation-a-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-30954</link>
		<dc:creator>Seressia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recuse yourself.

Lawyers do it.  Judges do it.  Former VP Cheney was asked to do it when it came to Scooter Libby.  Makes sense for a reviewer to do it when it comes to an author they work for.  You avoid accusations of impropriety because you wouldn&#039;t have done it in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recuse yourself.</p>
<p>Lawyers do it.  Judges do it.  Former VP Cheney was asked to do it when it came to Scooter Libby.  Makes sense for a reviewer to do it when it comes to an author they work for.  You avoid accusations of impropriety because you wouldn&#8217;t have done it in the first place.</p>
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