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	<title>Comments on: Wherein UK Authors Get Paid For Books That Libraries Lend Out&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Emmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traveling overseas....I been doing it wrong? All this time I&#039;ve only checked the legal age of consent. Who knew I had to vet for PLR too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traveling overseas&#8230;.I been doing it wrong? All this time I&#8217;ve only checked the legal age of consent. Who knew I had to vet for PLR too?</p>
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		<title>By: Gennita Low</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennita Low</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s how I decide on my overseas fun--I check out their library laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s how I decide on my overseas fun&#8211;I check out their library laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon76</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Heavy sigh) I&#039;m sorry you feel that way, AReader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Heavy sigh) I&#8217;m sorry you feel that way, AReader.</p>
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		<title>By: AReader</title>
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		<dc:creator>AReader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crikey. I&#039;m so glad I never have to go to the US again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crikey. I&#8217;m so glad I never have to go to the US again.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa Dare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tessa Dare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to make perfectly clear how our library funding is done &quot;down here&quot;, there is a state component - but at least in the states where I&#039;ve lived and worked, that&#039;s still a relatively small part of a library&#039;s budget.  The bulk of funding comes from local property taxes.  These may be funneled through a local county or city government, or the library fund may be set up as a separate &quot;millage&quot; that appears on the property tax statement.  In those cases, the library is not a city or county government arm, but its own separate entity.  This is partly why many times rural areas have the worst libraries--it&#039;s often hard to get farmers who own huge tracts of land to approve a millage like that.  In urban situations, the disparity in library services is often more about a lack of supplementary funding from the community.  Most libraries have a &quot;Friends of the Library&quot; group that raises extra money for books and programs, and typically the more affluent the area, the more they can raise.  

Philanthropic giving makes up a vital part of US public library budgets.  Aside from the local fundraising, corporate giants from Andrew Carnegie to Bill Gates have given hundreds of millions of dollars to fund library buildings, materials, and services.  Honestly, without the Carnegie and Gates Foundations, public libraries in the US would be very different, and not in good ways.  That&#039;s capitalist greed turning into a public benefit. :)

I&#039;m not saying Canada or the UK should look to us as a model.  I&#039;m just saying, our libraries has they exist now have evolved as a reflection of our country&#039;s ideals, its geographic makeup, our government structure, and yes, our economic system.  It may seem strange from an outsider&#039;s viewpoint, but it works for us.  

&lt;i&gt;When some of us express the fact that the PLR system may be terribly hard to implement here, and that we feel it more fair to leave the system as it is, we aren’t just blowing smoke. We know the issues involved, and having thought on them, feel it probably would not work with our “entire” system of government.&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly. Thanks, Anon76.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to make perfectly clear how our library funding is done &#8220;down here&#8221;, there is a state component &#8211; but at least in the states where I&#8217;ve lived and worked, that&#8217;s still a relatively small part of a library&#8217;s budget.  The bulk of funding comes from local property taxes.  These may be funneled through a local county or city government, or the library fund may be set up as a separate &#8220;millage&#8221; that appears on the property tax statement.  In those cases, the library is not a city or county government arm, but its own separate entity.  This is partly why many times rural areas have the worst libraries&#8211;it&#8217;s often hard to get farmers who own huge tracts of land to approve a millage like that.  In urban situations, the disparity in library services is often more about a lack of supplementary funding from the community.  Most libraries have a &#8220;Friends of the Library&#8221; group that raises extra money for books and programs, and typically the more affluent the area, the more they can raise.  </p>
<p>Philanthropic giving makes up a vital part of US public library budgets.  Aside from the local fundraising, corporate giants from Andrew Carnegie to Bill Gates have given hundreds of millions of dollars to fund library buildings, materials, and services.  Honestly, without the Carnegie and Gates Foundations, public libraries in the US would be very different, and not in good ways.  That&#8217;s capitalist greed turning into a public benefit. <img src='http://karenknowsbest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying Canada or the UK should look to us as a model.  I&#8217;m just saying, our libraries has they exist now have evolved as a reflection of our country&#8217;s ideals, its geographic makeup, our government structure, and yes, our economic system.  It may seem strange from an outsider&#8217;s viewpoint, but it works for us.  </p>
<p><i>When some of us express the fact that the PLR system may be terribly hard to implement here, and that we feel it more fair to leave the system as it is, we aren’t just blowing smoke. We know the issues involved, and having thought on them, feel it probably would not work with our “entire” system of government.</i></p>
<p>Exactly. Thanks, Anon76.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A public library is this: We, as a local community, put our money together and buy some books and share them. That’s all.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
Exactly.  And this is what our libraries need to remain.  A place giving the most people the most access to reading.  Your posts have continued to show every reason why I do not think PLR would be a good thing for libraries and authors in the US.

&lt;blockquote&gt;When some of us express the fact that the PLR system may be terribly hard to implement here, and that we feel it more fair to leave the system as it is, we aren’t just blowing smoke. We know the issues involved, and having thought on them, feel it probably would not work with our “entire” system of government.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Perfectly put Anon76.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A public library is this: We, as a local community, put our money together and buy some books and share them. That’s all.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly.  And this is what our libraries need to remain.  A place giving the most people the most access to reading.  Your posts have continued to show every reason why I do not think PLR would be a good thing for libraries and authors in the US.</p>
<blockquote><p>When some of us express the fact that the PLR system may be terribly hard to implement here, and that we feel it more fair to leave the system as it is, we aren’t just blowing smoke. We know the issues involved, and having thought on them, feel it probably would not work with our “entire” system of government.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perfectly put Anon76.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon76</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I&#039;m late to the game again.

What Emmy said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I&#8217;m late to the game again.</p>
<p>What Emmy said!</p>
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		<title>By: Anon76</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, and see, Kirsten, that&#039;s why some of us our saying that such a payment plan to authors would not be in the best interest of our citizens.

First you have the Federal Government with certain rules, then that trickles down to the State level (because we are still allowed to adapt certain things within our own states as long as we don&#039;t want federal funding for said actions), then comes our county governments, and then our city or township governments.

And let me tell you, that is all a huge complicated dance. Right now I&#039;m working on setting up a building and business for hubby and I. To do so, I have to appease every one of those trickle elements. Sometimes you have to start from the top and work down, and other times you have to start from the bottom and work up.

When some of us express the fact that the PLR system may be terribly hard to implement here, and that we feel it more fair to leave the system as it is, we aren&#039;t just blowing smoke. We know the issues involved, and having thought on them, feel it probably would not work with our &quot;entire&quot; system of government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, and see, Kirsten, that&#8217;s why some of us our saying that such a payment plan to authors would not be in the best interest of our citizens.</p>
<p>First you have the Federal Government with certain rules, then that trickles down to the State level (because we are still allowed to adapt certain things within our own states as long as we don&#8217;t want federal funding for said actions), then comes our county governments, and then our city or township governments.</p>
<p>And let me tell you, that is all a huge complicated dance. Right now I&#8217;m working on setting up a building and business for hubby and I. To do so, I have to appease every one of those trickle elements. Sometimes you have to start from the top and work down, and other times you have to start from the bottom and work up.</p>
<p>When some of us express the fact that the PLR system may be terribly hard to implement here, and that we feel it more fair to leave the system as it is, we aren&#8217;t just blowing smoke. We know the issues involved, and having thought on them, feel it probably would not work with our &#8220;entire&#8221; system of government.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Tessa said. US libraries are funded by state taxes, not federal...and it&#039;s further broken down by counties/cities. That&#039;s why ghettos have no library or small ones with limited selection: nobody is making enough money to provide enough taxes for something better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Tessa said. US libraries are funded by state taxes, not federal&#8230;and it&#8217;s further broken down by counties/cities. That&#8217;s why ghettos have no library or small ones with limited selection: nobody is making enough money to provide enough taxes for something better.</p>
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		<title>By: kirstensaell</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirstensaell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are making me very glad I live in Canada. Not that our system is perfect, but DAMN.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are making me very glad I live in Canada. Not that our system is perfect, but DAMN.</p>
<p> <img src='http://karenknowsbest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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