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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Twilight&#8217; Fanficcer Trying To Make Money From Stephanie Meyer&#8217;s Work</title>
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		<title>By: Tuscan Capo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuscan Capo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL My wife read this post and she had a quite different speculation on the controversy. 
Anyway, I attempted to read one of these Twilight books (and yea, eventually got through the entire thing), but sorry it bored me to tears. I may have enjoyed something like this in my younger years, but nowadays I prefer more mature characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL My wife read this post and she had a quite different speculation on the controversy.<br />
Anyway, I attempted to read one of these Twilight books (and yea, eventually got through the entire thing), but sorry it bored me to tears. I may have enjoyed something like this in my younger years, but nowadays I prefer more mature characters.</p>
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		<title>By: Karmyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karmyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard she&#039;s given up trying to publish it, has issued refunds, and is just going to make it available for free on her website.
Seems like somebody forgot rule #1 of fanfic. Thou shalt not attempt to profit from fanfiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard she&#8217;s given up trying to publish it, has issued refunds, and is just going to make it available for free on her website.<br />
Seems like somebody forgot rule #1 of fanfic. Thou shalt not attempt to profit from fanfiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Lolita Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lolita Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Some people are just off the effing chain...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Some people are just off the effing chain&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F**k. What an idiot. People like this girl will only give more ammunition to authors who are already against fanfiction, and make life more difficult to all her fellow fanfic writers. Way to go. The only defense for fanficcers is that they work out of love and not for profit. People love a book&#039;s  characters and want to write about them, that&#039;s great in my book but they don&#039;t deserve to make money out of it because the biggest work - establishing the world and the characters - has been done already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F**k. What an idiot. People like this girl will only give more ammunition to authors who are already against fanfiction, and make life more difficult to all her fellow fanfic writers. Way to go. The only defense for fanficcers is that they work out of love and not for profit. People love a book&#8217;s  characters and want to write about them, that&#8217;s great in my book but they don&#8217;t deserve to make money out of it because the biggest work &#8211; establishing the world and the characters &#8211; has been done already.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise van Hine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise van Hine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops, addendum here.  The GWTW  defense was that the story was a parody, and with that defense, was able to settle out of court and continue publication.  So unless &quot;Russet Noon&quot; could be legitimately deemed parody (and thus protected speech) she&#039;s probably shit out of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops, addendum here.  The GWTW  defense was that the story was a parody, and with that defense, was able to settle out of court and continue publication.  So unless &#8220;Russet Noon&#8221; could be legitimately deemed parody (and thus protected speech) she&#8217;s probably shit out of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise van Hine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise van Hine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>creeps in quietly... while she is likely to lose a copyright suit on the basis of co-opting Meyers&#039; characters and elements of the plot, she sorta kinda has a point about being able to base a vampire story in real places with real names and say &quot;nyah&quot;.  However, she better have $100K per story to back up the brazenness, because that is what the fine is for violating copyright.  $100K per violation.  And she could have easily done a lookalike with different names and skated past any potential issues.  Copyright when it comes to original works with similar themes and places is a big gray area, but if you&#039;re going to make something a tribute fic, then you&#039;re firmly on intellectual property that doesn&#039;t belong to you.  Like the author who wrote the slave&#039;s tale based on plot elements of &quot;Gone with the Wind&quot;, (the author won the copyright suit, btw), there has to be significant originality to the transformed work, and a large part of the argument that won it for that author was using a character who was generic in GWTW and made it completely her own - there was none of Mitchell&#039;s prose anywhere in evidence.  So having a common origin point or common plot element is not enough to sue for copyright violation, but co-opting the main characters, is sort of a no-brainer here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>creeps in quietly&#8230; while she is likely to lose a copyright suit on the basis of co-opting Meyers&#8217; characters and elements of the plot, she sorta kinda has a point about being able to base a vampire story in real places with real names and say &#8220;nyah&#8221;.  However, she better have $100K per story to back up the brazenness, because that is what the fine is for violating copyright.  $100K per violation.  And she could have easily done a lookalike with different names and skated past any potential issues.  Copyright when it comes to original works with similar themes and places is a big gray area, but if you&#8217;re going to make something a tribute fic, then you&#8217;re firmly on intellectual property that doesn&#8217;t belong to you.  Like the author who wrote the slave&#8217;s tale based on plot elements of &#8220;Gone with the Wind&#8221;, (the author won the copyright suit, btw), there has to be significant originality to the transformed work, and a large part of the argument that won it for that author was using a character who was generic in GWTW and made it completely her own &#8211; there was none of Mitchell&#8217;s prose anywhere in evidence.  So having a common origin point or common plot element is not enough to sue for copyright violation, but co-opting the main characters, is sort of a no-brainer here.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I didn&#039;t read Twilight, *I likey sexxing in my books* it&#039;s Meyer&#039;s writing and story that made the series so popular.  Who cares what this fanfic author has to say? It&#039;s obnoxious that a fan would presume to continue the story.  Why would anyone want to read this?

It&#039;s Meyer&#039;s world and no one but she can know &lt;em&gt;her&lt;/em&gt; character&#039;s points of view about anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I didn&#8217;t read Twilight, *I likey sexxing in my books* it&#8217;s Meyer&#8217;s writing and story that made the series so popular.  Who cares what this fanfic author has to say? It&#8217;s obnoxious that a fan would presume to continue the story.  Why would anyone want to read this?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Meyer&#8217;s world and no one but she can know <em>her</em> character&#8217;s points of view about anything.</p>
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		<title>By: JulieLeto</title>
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		<dc:creator>JulieLeto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, I hope Meyer pulls a JK Rowling and sues the idiot.  I&#039;ve said it before and I&#039;ll say it again in regards to fan fiction, &quot;CREATE YOUR OWN DAMNED CHARACTERS!&quot;

I know I shouldn&#039;t paint the whole phenom with one brush, but it&#039;s idiots like this who give fan fic a bad name...and rightfully so.

Twilight fans should be OUTRAGED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, I hope Meyer pulls a JK Rowling and sues the idiot.  I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again in regards to fan fiction, &#8220;CREATE YOUR OWN DAMNED CHARACTERS!&#8221;</p>
<p>I know I shouldn&#8217;t paint the whole phenom with one brush, but it&#8217;s idiots like this who give fan fic a bad name&#8230;and rightfully so.</p>
<p>Twilight fans should be OUTRAGED.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelia Sparrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelia Sparrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a feral! Call out the Socialization Squad!

See, this is where net-fandom gets to be problematic. An older fan from zine days, would have been properly socialized in the great commandments of fanfic:
You don&#039;t make money on it.
You don&#039;t show it to the talent.

She needs to have every legal repercussion possible dumped on her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a feral! Call out the Socialization Squad!</p>
<p>See, this is where net-fandom gets to be problematic. An older fan from zine days, would have been properly socialized in the great commandments of fanfic:<br />
You don&#8217;t make money on it.<br />
You don&#8217;t show it to the talent.</p>
<p>She needs to have every legal repercussion possible dumped on her.</p>
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		<title>By: Nonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Willaful, I posted about it awhile back on Romance Divas. It&#039;s, sadly, not a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willaful, I posted about it awhile back on Romance Divas. It&#8217;s, sadly, not a joke.</p>
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