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As most of you may have noticed, Jane’s rather light-hearted Romantic Times conference recap got hi-jacked by one of the Mr Romance contestants after he took exception to….. erm….ahh who the fuck knows?
If I’m honest, his story changed so many times that I’m pretty confused about what his actual problem was.
Anyway, this post isn’t really about him.
Blogger, Sidhe Vicious wrote a long and rambling rant, firstly sympathising with Antonio Angeletti’s plight, having been sexually abused by a bunch of “disgusting drunk fat women”. (She swears blind her rant wasn’t aimed at anybody specifically, but we all know how that works.) Admittedly the use of the quote was slightly out of context, but I think you get the gist.
Anyway, she was also incensed about people treating Angeletti like shit, just because he was a stripper. I’m not even sure that holds any water seeing as the readers and commenters were perfectly fine with that other RT contestant, Andrew something-or-other. Maybe because he came across as lucid and rational, who knows?
Can I just say that I am truly disappointed in the human race today… I feel terrible for all the Mr. Romantic Times contestants, models, strippers, etc. Whether or not these men are paid to be there to entertain in whatever capacity they are, there is no excuse to treat any of them like a piece of meat! Sure, maybe there are 1 or 2 in every bunch who’s actions may invite it, but again, do not judge them all by that one or two individuals actions.
I consider myself pretty liberal-minded about most things, however there are some things that I refuse to be all lily-livered about. And strippers who bitch about being treated like pieces of meat are one of them.
I understand the concept of live and let live, and basically I’m all for that, but I’m also realistic enough to know that we live in a world full of people who think nothing of judging others based on the way they look, the colour of their skin, their religion, their size, and a whole host of things that is beyond our control. People being judged because of what they do for a job is just a drop in the ocean, and really shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody. The good thing is, at least one’s job or career is something that can be controlled.
The fact is, I’m honest enough to admit that if I met somebody and they told me that they strip off in bars etc, for a living, I am going to judge them. I may even assume that they have loose morals. Unfair, I know, but I’m being honest.
On the other hand, if I met somebody for the first time, and they told me that they were in the medical profession, I’d probably automatically assume that they were decent human beings who live to help others.
Of course it may be that the stripper is actually working his/her way through medical college and stripping is a way that ensures that his/her colleague fees are paid, and it may be that the medical professional is a drunk who beats kids, but seriously, I’ve only just met these people so I’m hardly going to be looking too far beneath the surface.
In my opinion, if you take your clothes off for a living, the likelihood is, people are going to treat you like a piece of meat at one point or another. You can’t have people stuffing money into your bra or down your trousers whilst you take your clothes off in front of them, without those people making certain assumptions about you. That’s just not fucking realistic. It might not be fair, but come on, since when was life fair?
I spent over 20 years working in bars and have seen my share of Ladies Nights with male dancers. Let me tell you, there is NOTHING lady-like about the women who go to see male dancers! More like a pack of ravening wolves. Many times I was embarrassed to even be a female after witnessing this behaviour.
I may not have spent twenty years working in bars, but I have witnessed the odd strip-show (Seeing The Dream Boys and The Chippendales were really not the highlight of my life, talk about dull, dull, dull!) and the women who behave in an unladylike manner are usually being egged on by the strippers themselves. I saw my first strip show about fifteen years ago, and I’ll never forget how horrified I was that the strippers picked women out of the crowd and got them to eat bananas out of their thongs. I remember being picked out, by one of the strippers, and telling him to fuck off in no uncertain terms. (I really didn’t want to be there, and my usual tact and diplomacy had left me by then).
Sidhe talks about being disgusted by the ladies who go to see male dancers, seemingly forgetting that without those unlady-like women, the male dancers that she wants to defend so vigourously would probably be out of work.
I’m fascinated by the fact that she’s so keen on placing the blame on the people who go to watch the dancers, rather than on the dancers who choose to earn a buck that way. In my opinion, you either blame none of them, or you blame both of them.
Then I see people dumping on this guy Antonio for trying to explain his side of the story. It just really pisses me off that just because he’s 1) a man and 2) a dancer/stripper that he gets disrespected or even worse made to feel like he’s less of a person because of his job.
Urrggh. The thing is, here in Blogland, if you come across all troll-like, with guns blazing, changing your story every two minutes, accusing people of sexually harassing you in one breath, then recanting the accusation in the next, you’re gonna be duly mocked, regardless of what you do for a living. That’s true equal opportunity for you.
I’ve known a lot of strippers over the years and the majority of them are just trying to make a buck. Trying to put themselves through school, trying to pay off loans, trying to support their children, trying to get by in an economy that sucks.
For whatever reason they are doing this job, they get lumped into a lower class citizen category and even worse, they are treated as such. They are treated as unintelligent, as egotistical, as unfeeling hunks of “beef” and as promiscuous. Why is that? It boils down to jealousy as far as I can tell and jealousy makes people behave despicably.
Urrgghh. This is such liberal bullshit, it makes my skin crawl. And that’s coming from a moderate left-winger. Stripping isn’t a noble art that deserves respect. It just isn’t. It’s a controversial way of making money. It’s still considered a form of public nudity and as such is subject to legal and cultural contraints on moral and decency grounds.
Just this year in fact, stripping was fully banned in Iceland.
Perhaps strippers are treated like unintelligent and egotistical, unfeeling hunks of beef, and that may be totally unfair, but I can see how those assumptions are come by. As for the whole ‘stripping to get by’ thing? Don’t some porn stars and prostitutes use the same excuse? I’m sorry, but I’ve known people who were on the breadline, people who didn’t have a bean to their name – those people took cleaning jobs, they scrubbed toilets, they didn’t choose to take their clothes of in front of complete strangers.
If people want strip for a living, then by all means they should be able to, without coming to any harm, but they really shouldn’t be surprised if people judge them and treat them like commodities for sale. It’s not ideal, but it’s the way of the world.
What say you?