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Nora Roberts VS AAR Review Message Board…

Wednesday, February 1, 2006
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Jesus Effing Christ, no wonder I never post at the bloody All About Romance message boards, those ladies are mean. Much meaner than me at any rate.

As you know, I’m a Nora Roberts fan again due to her In Death books, and that generally means that even though I may have dissed her in the past, I love her now, (aren’t we readers fickle?) so I’m interested in any NR related scandals (what? You know you are too!)

Anyway, I heard from ReneeW, who posted on Kristie’s blog that there’d been a kerfuffle over at the AAR Reviews message board, so I duly went over to look at the car wreck.

Apparently, Nora’s newest In Death book, has a controversial photo of her on the back of the book. The conversation somehow managed to veer off the actual book, and a discussion of how she was portrayed in the photo ensued.

Here are some conversation excerpts:

Somebody initially posted (Erm… Robin was it you?)

Nora Responds:

Robin Responds:

Nora again:

Nice one Nora! The argument went on, and on, and effing on. Sheesh, I just couldn’t be arsed posting, and by the way, the KarenS who regularly posts over there is so not me!

I predict that the sales of Memory In Death will shoot up due to people being curious about what the photo looks like. I already Amazoned it!

If you want to have a look at the train wreck, the link is at the beginning of this entry…

19 Comments »


  • The Newsbitch
    February 1
    11:24 pm

    Hi Karen,

    Thanks for stopping by my blog. I found you whilst ‘bloghopping’ – I cannot remember exactly whose blog linked to you, but I found your blog and loved it! The design is gorgeous, too.

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  • CW
    February 1
    11:41 pm

    Heh. I have a copy of the back photo up, but there’s also a pic at Nora’s husband’s bookstore site.

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  • Eve Vaughn
    February 2
    12:36 am

    You have no idea how many Nora Roberts books I have in my To be read pile. It would be awesome if you got her interview

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  • Paige Burns
    February 2
    4:12 am

    It’s crazy the stuff ppl argue about. I for one like the new pic, the old one was getting to me! 😉

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  • Dramedy Girl
    February 2
    4:14 am

    Seriously? Obviously some people have a lot of time to burn when it comes to ‘discussions’ such as these. It is definitely a downside to the internet. I guess it just never crossed the reader’s mind that her picture on the back of the In Death series is just slicker and hipper than her regular romance one because it fits the books and her J.D. Robb persona. Sheesh, all that kerfluffle over something so simple.

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  • Dakota Cassidy
    February 2
    7:13 am

    I just gotta ask ya. Who the HELL takes that much time to put all that thought and conclusion drawing into into a pic?

    If Nora were naked, I’d have to agree with all the speculation. But to draw such stupidly, ludicrous conclusions is waaaay too much time not spent where ya really oughta be–hitting the therapy couch.

    Dakota 🙂

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  • Sam
    February 2
    11:02 am

    I hear ya Dakota!
    It does seem odd to read so much in a photo. (note to self – when I become a famous author, do not put photo in back of book…)
    LOL

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  • Anne
    February 2
    12:58 pm

    Oh, for Christ’s sake! Get a grip people! I’ve seen the photo on the back of the book, just yesterday in fact when I went to Waldensbooks, and Nora Roberts looks NOTHING like I pictured Eve Dalls in my head… NOTHING like she is portrayed in the In Death books, but rather Nora is looking rather hip, cool, and trendy… exactly what she was going for I think. I thought she looked great! Cripes… some people need to find a hobby.

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  • Angela James
    February 2
    1:55 pm

    Actually, this debate started on an actual Nora Roberts message board and then moved to AAR. I can’t recall specifically, but it might have even been the same person posting both times but Nora did respond in both instances. I find the whole thing completely ridiculous. I thought the photo was fabulous and I’m with Dakota–who the hell has time to think of shit like that and project such a bullshit theory onto an author. Blech.

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  • Millenia Black
    February 2
    4:26 pm

    Personally, I would not have responded. The comment was hollow and seemed very arrogant. Didn’t need a response from Nora…

    I guess it bothered her that someone would think she envisioned herself as Eve Dallas…

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  • Ann Wesley Hardin
    February 2
    6:11 pm

    Guess I should nix that photo of me in a cockpit. *gg*

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  • Lauren Dane
    February 2
    6:28 pm

    Nora was damned if she did and damned if she didn’t.

    The person who first wrote made it very personal and essentially accused Nora of having issues and needing to live through her characters.

    For goodness sake, it’s a publicity photo. It says, “ooh, I’m hip and I write futuristics! Read this book!” It does not say, “i have mental problems and live through Eve Dallas”

    I think the bigger your celebrity profile is, the more people want to rip you down. I think the “who me!” attitude of the original poster who pretended like she had no idea why Nora would be defending herself was ridiculous.

    That said, I think Nora would have been better off ignoring it. It wasn’t worth her time and effort.

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  • Anne
    February 2
    10:06 pm

    Nora Roberts has a message board? Where is it located? And why did I not know about this? LOL Anyone with any info, I’d really appreciate it.. annejg24@gmail.com

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  • Dakota Cassidy
    February 3
    12:41 am

    you know what? I was thinking about the whole pic thing? Good hell, if I had to take a pic that looked like I was mimicking every one of my heroines, I’d be a vamp/supermodel/fairy godmother/hispanic/divorcee/witch/werewolf/secret agent/movie grip.

    Just THINK of the wardrobe I could have. LMAO

    Dakota 🙂

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  • Robin
    February 3
    1:24 am

    “The argument went on, and on, and effing on.”

    Ah, just to clarify, the discussion actually went on and on and on WELL BEFORE Nora Roberts got on board. Like you, though, she seemed only to focus on my first post, which I composed hastily and not even thinking it was controversial. Why? Because my point, which, BTW, I clarified WELL BEFORE Roberts responded, was far more boring than that first one that some people are reading as so much more personal and inflammatory, especially dragged out of context like that. My much more boring point was simply that I think the marketing of the In Death books includes an invocation of Eve through the cover photos (a visual merging of author and character intended to make me identify the two more closely than I might otherwise) a tradition in some Romance marketing that I don’t really like. The photos are not how I envision Eve, either, but I’ve seen a number of people make the comparison, which made me look more closely at the pics than I probably would have otherwise. Luckily, enough people understood what I was trying to say, so I know that I made it clear at some point, but it’s probably not nearly as fun to respond to as that first post. I don’t blame you for not wanting to trek through the whole thread; it was a big drag for me, too, after a while. Ah, if I had only said, “Wow, I love that new photo –isn’t it cool how Roberts is dressed in such an Eve-like outfit and walking down such a NYC-like street!” The whole thing probably would have turned out differently.

    “Actually, this debate started on an actual Nora Roberts message board and then moved to AAR.”

    Really? Well, I guess that figures, since I was hardly the inventor of the idea that the pictures of “Robb” seemed very Eve-like. I’d heard it so often, in fact, that the idea that it was controversial completely shocked me.

    “The person who first wrote made it very personal and essentially accused Nora of having issues and needing to live through her characters.”

    I don’t want to word this rudely, but I know it’s going to come out this way, so I apologize in advance. I think what some people are saying about my initial post is itself a BIG over-reading and a mirror image of what I’m being accused of.

    “. . .who the hell has time to think of shit like that and project such a bullshit theory onto an author. Blech.”

    I understand this point, because I think this sometimes when people go on and on about who’s going to play Roarke in the movie, for example, or what kind of underwear he wears, or how whether Roberts should bring Eve’s mother back, etc. And if it makes you feel any better, it really didn’t take any time to notice what people were saying about the cover photos and making a general observation about how Romance is sometimes marketed.

    Really, I don’t care if people take my first statement a certain way, or even if Nora Roberts did, since I made myself clear quickly enough, and I got some really thoughtful and articulate comments of understanding from people whose opinions I respect on that board. When I think, though, about all the comments I read on blogs, reader sites, etc., that any particular author might take personally if they decided to, I wonder if everyone who makes a provocative comment is ready — or should reasonably have to expect — to have a firestorm descend on them. And why, for example, some seem to think it’s okay to lash out at a reader, or perhaps even a less popular author (which I’ve certainly seen plenty of in my various treks through blogland), but not at Nora Roberts.

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  • Desiree Erotique
    February 3
    1:32 am

    Gods help those of us who have posed as our heroines!
    The lady ought to be able to have any photo she wants on her own damned book and whoever takes issue with it needs to get a life.

    Years ago I bought a copy of the original paperback version of Stephen King’s Misery. Talk about an author being transposed into their own story -very humorlessly, of course. But I’ve never read any complaints about Mr. King over that one! Is that because he’s a man?

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  • Rosie
    February 3
    1:12 pm

    I had some really good snark to add to this conversation. But most of my comments were about paying this much attention to something that should have been a passing comment. It just goes to show that our intent and meaning don’t always come across in our posts. It’s hard for me to believe this much attention is being paid to ANY author’s cover photo. At least it’s accomplishing one thing it’s supposed to…attention to the book.

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  • Beverly
    February 4
    2:25 am

    I guess I’m the only one who thinks this way, but I got the impression that the original comments were not at all personal, but meant to start a discussion on the marketing of romance and its authors. And though there may be many here who aren’t interested in talking about that, there are those (like me) who find those discussions interesting. That doesn’t mean that the ones who do enjoy those discussion have a problem or something to prove. To each her own.

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  • Reese
    February 4
    4:16 pm

    As the John Goodman character in “The Big Lebowski” would say: “that’s what you get when you fuck a stranger in the ass.”

    Good for Nora – I love the way she doesn’t take any shit.

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