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OK, I had to come out of exile for this.

Me and The Tall Guy watched a programme the other night about women who breastfeed.

I’m 100% behind women who breastfeed. If God ever sees fit to let me have my own rugrats, I fully intend to let my babies cop a load of my breast milk. So you see, I really don’t have a problem with it.

What I do have a problem with on the other hand, is fucking breastfeeding a child who is nine years old. What the *&%$£*£$ is that about?

I could perhaps understand if the mothers expressed the milk, and put it into a glass for the kids to drink, but why the effing hell do they have to hang off their nipples?

Both hubby and I felt sick as parrots watching this documentary. It was just icky.

My stance is this: Don’t bother telling me that it’s for the child’s benefit, fuck that, it’s for your fucking benefit, you goddamn perv!!

Here are some views on the subject from “experts”.

Here’s another article from the Times that also discusses the issue of extended breast-feeding.

OK, that’s my rant for the week, I’m going back into hiding, until something else pisses me off.

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  • Rosie
    February 7
    10:38 pm

    As I’ve said before my boy-os were adopted so no breast feeding for me. Both of them refused the bottle on their own at 10 mos and 12 mos respectively. It is hard for me to picture an 8 year old who gets comfort from being breast fed. But if we can accept that what a person does in the privacy of their home with regard to sexuality, then I guess we can accept if a mother wants to breast feed her kid into adolescence.

    I think it’s odd that she is okay with it. How about Dad? The guy I live with wasn’t comfortable with the kids sleeping with us. We did it when they were scared, but as soon as they were sound asleep he bounded out of bed and carried them back to their own beds.

    How do the fathers of these kids feel I wonder.

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  • Jennifer Aniston
    February 7
    11:23 pm

    I think it’s totally up to the individual how long they wish to breast feed their child. It’s only our smallmindedness that turns it into something perverted. Where is it written that only babies should be breast fed? Precisely nowhere, that’s where.

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  • Sheryl
    February 8
    1:41 am

    I’m all for individuality but I believe breastfeeding is for babies. From birth until they become small children ie: 0 to 3 or 4.

    When they’re almost into adolescence then no. It does them no benefit, except to think that their mother’s going to be feeding them all the blinkin’ time.

    I’m not a prude by any means but that just turns my stomach.

    Sheryl

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  • Anonymous
    February 8
    3:12 am

    I don’t care what anyone says, breastfeeding an eight year old is kind of icky. Eww I once watched a 20/20 special where the kids were all in grade school but they were still being breast feed. I’m all for breastfeeding. If I’m blessed with babies of my own, as soon as that first tooth cuts through they’d better be on the bottle, if not sooner.
    If a woman wants to breastfeed a gradeschooler you have to ask what that woman is getting out of it. Again, I say Eww.

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  • Lori
    February 8
    3:27 am

    As soon as a child is old enough to understand that breasts have another meaning *wink wink* – it is past time to stop. Ok, as soon as a girl starts growing her own, it is time to stop for crying out loud.

    I’m with you on this 100% Karen. The preschool director where I sent my kids was a member of La Leche League. That’s great, no problem with that. But… her 7 year old would walk there after school – mind you, she was old enough to walk to the preschool from her elementary school by herself – so, she would walk there and say hi to mom and promptly pull her shirt up for a drink. Ick.

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  • Jaynie R
    February 8
    10:26 am

    Oh wow, that’s like um…I’m speechless. I can’t even imagine my 3 year old still feeding – maybe the 2 year old cos he can’t talk, but no – I gotta say I’m with you on this one. It doesn’t feel right to me.

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  • Desiree Erotique
    February 8
    2:03 pm

    Hey Karen, I’ve had four children, and hoped to breastfeed all them. But things didn’t work out that way.
    Now with my first, she was able to suckle for nine weeks. Then she started getting sick after feeding times. The doctors determined that she was allergic to milk, including breast milk, so I had to turn to formula. With my second, I was taking meds for epilepsy, and it would have been dangerous for him to nurse. By the time my third was born I was off the dangerous meds so she could nurse. But my fourth was born pre-mature and spent some time in the hospital before we could bring him home. By then, despite the pumping, my milk had almost dried up.

    Still I tried very hard to express the milk before turning to bottled formula. My local health department directed me to their La Leche League “expert” for advise. I’ve rarely come across any person so judgemental or pushy! Talk about guilt trips; the woman could really lay it thick. She insinuated that I really didn’t love my baby, was selfish, ect. ect. I was deep in the post-partum blues, and the woman really seemed know exactly what to say to make me feel worse. Anyway, my husband finally put his foot down. He went out and bought a dozen new bottles and a box of formula. I was a much happier woman and Mommy after he did this.

    Breastfeeding is natural, but sometimes nature or circumstances make it necessary to use formula. But this discussion about breastfeeding children long after most little ones are weaned, has reminded me of another La Leche fanatic. I may post on this myself.

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  • Marianne McA
    February 8
    4:28 pm

    Given these are otherwise good parents, the contention is that mothers who breast feed at five are bad parents in a way that mothers who still dress their five year olds, or allow their five year olds to suck a dummy are not.

    The longest I breast fed for was a year, and I feel very uncomfortable watching an older toddler breast feed – but is that because there is actually something wrong with it, or because I’m conditioned to have certain expectations? [After all, lots of people feel really uncomfortable seeing even a tiny baby breast fed, but we attribute that to their hang ups, not to breast feeding being a deviant activity.]

    And, without having seen the programme, it’s the sort of thing I don’t believe is made because of genuine concern for this tiny minority of children. Would a programme about extended bottle feeders (I know one of these) ever get commissioned? Maybe I’m over cynical, but I can’t help feeling that if we fed with our ear lobes, or elbows, Channel Four (or whoever, but it’s usually Channel 4) wouldn’t find the issue of such pressing interest.

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  • azteclady
    February 8
    5:21 pm

    Biologically, breast feeding is necessary only until the offspring is mature enough to properly eat (read, chew) and digest other food. So pardon me, but unless there’s some serious health issues, no child after toddlehood “needs” to breastfeed. And usually serious health issues call for change in diet and/or medication, not breastfeeding past a couple of years.

    Call me judgemental, but I call breastfeeding or giving a bottle to a child older than say, 3 or 4 years, to be emotionally unhealthy.

    Are there exceptions? I’m sure there are, as with everything else in life. In the majority of the cases though, from where I sit, the mother is indulging keeping the child tied to her.

    Karen, I’ve missed you, by the way. So happy to have you drop by 😉

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  • LaShaunda
    February 8
    9:33 pm

    Hi Karen,

    I breastfed until my children were two. I think that’s usually when they stop drinking a bottle.

    I think when they’re that old its usually a bonding more than nourishment. Once they have teeth it gets a little hard.

    I once saw a six year throw his mother to the floor and jump on top of her so he could drink. I remember thinking ( I didn’t have kids at the time) Hell NO!

    I think when you go past two or three its on the mother. She’s not ready to break the bond.

    I highly recommend breastfeeding if you’re not stay at home mom. A great way to bond with your child.

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  • Avid Reader
    February 8
    10:45 pm

    Well,

    I do find it weird for a toddler who is walking to still be breastfeeding. It’s awkward and what purpose is it serving at this point in the toddler’s life? I believe breastfeeding is a good thing, in fact, it’s preferred so that the child can get the antibodies from the mother and it certainly does help with fighting off infections.

    My thoughts: it’s weird. Unconventional. I don’t know if it’s wrong or not and don’t really care but all in all: weird.

    Keishon

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  • Anne
    February 9
    12:33 am

    Wow, that’s pretty disgusting. I breast fed until my son ate more than I produced which was about 2 months *wry grin* BUT, had I been able to breast feed longer, the longest I would have done it would have been til 9 months or so… Hell I’d be afraid the little bugger would bite my nipples off… LOL… mistaking them for teething rings and shit. LOL! Nine years old is just, as you said, perverted. Something is seriously wrong there. EEK!

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  • Rocio
    February 9
    3:04 am

    I breastfeed my kid for a little over a year each. It was great for me because during that time, it also help prevent pregnacy. At rural part of DR it´s the only method avoiding ladies having babies each year.
    I totally agree with Marianne, this most be a stage in live, and as any other, it is wrong to extend it beyond reasonable!

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  • MaryJanice
    February 9
    3:35 am

    My rule of thumb, as the mother of two, is pretty simple: if the child is old enough to ask to breastfeed, and is able to put the request in writing, he/she is too old to be breast fed.

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  • Millenia Black
    February 9
    7:19 am

    What the f*ck is right! The world is populated with many an idiot. Nuff said.

    HILARIOUS post, BTW – ROAR!!

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  • Dawn
    February 9
    9:32 am

    I watched this too, Karen. And I was totally amazed by it.

    I can completely agree with the woman who was trying to promote breast feeding among new mothers, as statistics do indicate that breast feeding rates are falling and it may have a detrimental effect on the babies.

    I can about understand a child feeding until maybe 3 or 4 (maybe), but beyond that there’s a definite “eww” factor.

    The mother who fed her 9 year old was only stopping because the kid was losing the suckling reflex. Frankly it looked incestuous to me – totally repulsive.

    It certainly generated lots of debate at work the next day.

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  • Selah March
    February 9
    3:05 pm

    Back when I was in my gestating/lactating phase of motherhood and reading everything I could about it, I came across an article that included this statistic: average worldwide age of weaning from the breast is four years. AVERAGE.

    Now that includes all sorts of tribal communities, with different expectations and traditions, etc. But it would seem to indicate that there are plenty of six and seven year olds in the world still sipping from the boob — just not so many in the West. I expect it has to do with differing nutritional needs in less-developed areas of the world, as well.

    As for toddlers who’ve learned to walk while still breastfeeding? The American Academy of Pediatricians and the World Health Organization recommend weaning from the breast at age two. Most children learn to walk around age one. Nothing “weird” or “unconventional” about it.

    That said, you need to do what works for you, and not get hung up on it. Guilt never did a thing for anybody, least of all a growing child.

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  • Reese
    February 9
    8:45 pm

    I hear it’s normal in Germany to breastfeed the kid until he/she is five years old, but I wonder – who the F wants to lactate that long?? Jeez, don’t you want to have a life??

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  • azteclady
    February 9
    10:17 pm

    I guess that what freaks me out over hearing that a child beyond 4 is still nursing is that the child can’t exercise consent – the decision to continue lactating beyond toddlehood(whatever the experts say) is made by the adult there.

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  • Marianne McA
    February 9
    11:46 pm

    I’d have thought that too Azteclady – but the reason I know I personally find seeing an older child breastfed uncomfortable, is that I know someone who did breastfeed her third child for about four years. Truly, it wasn’t her choice – she just wasn’t as strong willed as the child.
    Anyone who can let their child overrule them in that way is obviously going to have problems being an effective parent, so I’m not arguing it was a Good Thing – but I know that in this case it was the child’s choice, and it was a source of real annoyance to the mother, and if number four (who was weaned rather quickly) hadn’t come along, goodness knows when number three would have stopped.
    The child would be about nine now, and is completely normal and well-adjusted, if still rather decided in her views.
    So, I don’t know, yes, I can see where the ick factor is, but there were statistics the other day about how many people were trying to download child pornography daily – thousands upon thousands – and yet I’m sure there aren’t more than a handful of children being breastfed in later childhood – it just feels like ‘Roll up, roll up, see the bearded lady, the half-ton man & the eternally breast-feeding mothers.’ Freak show TV.
    Which is unfair, I didn’t see the programme, and it possibly would have provided real help and guidance for my friend.
    If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this comment…

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